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==UK Ports passenger lists 1878-1960==  
 
==UK Ports passenger lists 1878-1960==  
Ancestry contains the dataset "UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960"<ref>[http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1518  UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960] ancestry.co.uk. The National Archives (TNA) collection series BT26.</ref>, (located in Immigration & Travel/Passenger Lists) which contain the names of people arriving at United Kingdom ports from places outside Europe, based on records from The National Archives, Kew.
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'''Ancestry''' contains the dataset "UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960"<ref>[http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1518  UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960] ancestry.co.uk. The National Archives (TNA) collection series BT26.</ref>, (located in Immigration & Travel/Passenger Lists) which contain the names of people arriving at United Kingdom ports from places outside Europe, based on records from The National Archives, Kew.
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<br> '''Note''': The Ancestry transcribed field "Port of Departure" appears to be the first '''port of departure of the ship''', not the port of departure of the person. It may be necessary to look at the image to find the port of departure of the person.<ref> MoVidger. <nowiki>http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/topic15943.html</nowiki>, now no longer available. Post titled 'Samuel Howarth (1907-1980) - Royal Artillery" ''Who do you think you are? Forum'' 13 -14 October 2017. The "Port of Departure" was advised to be in Chile, but later it was stated the image advised Bermuda as the departure place of the person. Retrieved 14 October 2017.</ref>
  
[[findmypast]] contains the dataset "Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960"<ref>[http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/passenger-lists-leaving-uk-1890-1960  Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960] findmypast. The National Archives (TNA) collection series BT27.</ref>,  located in Travel & migration, based on records from The National Archives.
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'''[[Findmypast]]''' contains the dataset "Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960"<ref>[http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/passenger-lists-leaving-uk-1890-1960  Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960] findmypast. The National Archives (TNA) collection series BT27.</ref>,  located in Travel & migration, based on records from The National Archives.
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<br>'''Ancestry''' also contains a similar database "UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960". located in  Immigration & Travel.<ref>[https://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2997 UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960] Ancestry</ref>
  
Note however, the above websites only contain persons who travelled the entire journey to and from India via a  UK port. A researcher advised: "Many people travelling from India found it faster and more convenient to travel by steamer to Marseilles and take the train direct to Calais and then by regular ferry to Dover. Entry into England by this route was not recorded. Many of my relatives did this (we know from letters) but no official records were kept. Frustrating for us later!"<ref>Stanes, Peter. [http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/INDIA/2012-07/1343507361 Passenger lists] ''Rootsweb India Mailing List'' 29 July 2012. Retrieved 12 July 2016.</ref>
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Note however, the above websites only contain persons who travelled the entire journey to and from India via a  UK port. A researcher advised: "Many people travelling from India found it faster and more convenient to travel by steamer to Marseilles and take the train direct to Calais and then by regular ferry to Dover. Entry into England by this route was not recorded. Many of my relatives did this (we know from letters) but no official records were kept. Frustrating for us later!"<ref>Stanes, Peter. [https://web.archive.org/web/20210501230619/https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?listname=india&thread=785704  Passenger lists] ''Rootsweb India Mailing List'' 29 July 2012, archived. </ref>
  
 
The National Archives guide [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/passengers/ How to look  for records of  Passengers]  gives more details.
 
The National Archives guide [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/passengers/ How to look  for records of  Passengers]  gives more details.
  
 
Both the above sites are free to search, but require payment to view the records. They are free to view at the National Archives. Some Libraries may have free access, refer [[Miscellaneous tips]].  Some Genealogy Societies provide free access from their libraries if you are a member.
 
Both the above sites are free to search, but require payment to view the records. They are free to view at the National Archives. Some Libraries may have free access, refer [[Miscellaneous tips]].  Some Genealogy Societies provide free access from their libraries if you are a member.
 
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===Australia Passenger Lists===
For passenger lists between India and Australia see [http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Australia#Archives_and_other_records_including_Passenger_Lists Australia]
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*Findmypast database "Australia, Inward, Outward & Coastal Passenger Lists 1826-1972"<ref>[https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/australia-inward-outward-and-coastal-passenger-lists-1826-1972 Australia, Inward, Outward & Coastal Passenger Lists 1826-1972] Findmypast.</ref> located in Travel & Migration/ Passenger Lists was introduced c 2021/05/07 with more records added c 2021/07/23. The records are from multiple Australian sources.
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*For passenger lists between India and Australia also see [http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Australia#Archives_and_other_records_including_Passenger_Lists Australia]
  
 
==FIBIS resources==
 
==FIBIS resources==
 
* See [[Arrival and Departure notices]]. Includes information on  FIBIS Database
 
* See [[Arrival and Departure notices]]. Includes information on  FIBIS Database
*[http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_browse_sources.php?mode=class_detail&source_class=142 Passenger lists] on FIBIS Database
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*[http://fibis.ourarchives.online/bin/aps_browse_sources.php?mode=class_detail&source_class=142 Passenger lists] on FIBIS Database
*[http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_browse_sources.php?mode=browse_classes&source_class=4 Embarkation Records] on FIBIS Database relate to soldiers of EIC and British Armies and, in some cases, include women and children, lists of ship's crew and passengers.
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*[http://fibis.ourarchives.online/bin/aps_browse_sources.php?mode=browse_classes&source_class=4 Embarkation Records] on FIBIS Database relate to soldiers of EIC and British Armies and, in some cases, include women and children, lists of ship's crew and passengers.
  
 
==Earlier passenger lists==
 
==Earlier passenger lists==
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*Refer to the British Library webpage Maritime Services,and associated information, accessible from [[Maritime Service#External links|Maritime Service-External links]].
 
*Refer to the British Library webpage Maritime Services,and associated information, accessible from [[Maritime Service#External links|Maritime Service-External links]].
 
*Passenger lists appear in various directories and periodicals. For  editions available online, see [[Directories online]] and [[Newspapers and journals online]]
 
*Passenger lists appear in various directories and periodicals. For  editions available online, see [[Directories online]] and [[Newspapers and journals online]]
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*[https://web.archive.org/web/20120601155522/http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/roots/asian/asian.htm Moving Here: Tracing your roots:  South Asian Roots] now an archived website.
 
*Wendy Leahy’s [http://shadowsoftime.co.nz/index.html Shadows of Time] includes  
 
*Wendy Leahy’s [http://shadowsoftime.co.nz/index.html Shadows of Time] includes  
 
**[http://shadowsoftime.co.nz/india.html India Records]  
 
**[http://shadowsoftime.co.nz/india.html India Records]  
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*** [http://shadowsoftime.co.nz/bombayalmanac.html ''Bombay Calendar And Almanac'' Passenger Lists and Shipping Information 1822 – 1842 (Extracts)]
 
*** [http://shadowsoftime.co.nz/bombayalmanac.html ''Bombay Calendar And Almanac'' Passenger Lists and Shipping Information 1822 – 1842 (Extracts)]
 
*[http://www.theshipslist.com/1862/thetimes1862.html Shipping Related Events of 1862 From The Times] from the Ships List. Includes some passengers from India.
 
*[http://www.theshipslist.com/1862/thetimes1862.html Shipping Related Events of 1862 From The Times] from the Ships List. Includes some passengers from India.
*India List post transcribing a letter in [http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/INDIA/2011-03/1301585129 ''The Times''  Thursday, 29 July 1858] praising the captain of the Peninsula and Oriental Steamship Candida, travelling from India and China, with signatories,  and a second  India List transcription of a letter in [http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/INDIA/2011-04/1301846241 ''The Times'' 5 January 1859] regarding the “evils and annoyances” experienced on the transit through Egypt  to board the Peninsular and Oriental Company's steam vessel Ceylon,(for travel to India), with signatories
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*India List post<ref>eleanore. [https://web.archive.org/web/20200927052957/https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?listname=india&thread=1315669 P&O SS Candia Passengers 1858 from India and China] ''Rootsweb India Mailing List''  31 March 2011, archived.</ref> transcribing a letter in ''The Times''  Thursday, 29 July 1858, praising the captain of the Peninsula and Oriental Steamship Candia, travelling from India and China, with signatories,  and a second  India List transcription<ref>eleanore. [https://web.archive.org/web/20200927053425/https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?listname=india&thread=1315731  Transit Through Egypt 1858] ''Rootsweb India Mailing List''  3 April 2011, archived. </ref> of a letter in  ''The Times'' 5 January 1859, regarding the “evils and annoyances” experienced on the transit through Egypt  to board the Peninsular and Oriental Company's steam vessel Ceylon, (for travel to India), with signatories.
  
 
==Military embarkation records==
 
==Military embarkation records==
 
*[[East India Company Army#India Office records at the British Library|East India Company Army-India Office records at the British Library]] Embarkation lists 1753-1861. Also available on LDS microfilm.
 
*[[East India Company Army#India Office records at the British Library|East India Company Army-India Office records at the British Library]] Embarkation lists 1753-1861. Also available on LDS microfilm.
*[[British Army#India Office military records at the British Library|British Army-India Office military records at the British Library]] British Army troops embarked for India 1871-1889.
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*[[British Army#India Office military records at the British Library|British Army-India Office military records at the British Library]] British Army troops embarked for India 1871-1889. These records are available<ref>[https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/british-army-embarkation-lists-1871-1889 British Army Embarkation Lists, 1871-1889] Findmypast database.</ref> on [[Findmypast]] (pay website),  located in Military, Armed Forces & Conflict/Other Wars & Conflicts, (added 9 July 2021).
 
*[http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlmil_8-1&cid=1-2-8#1-2-8  Indian Army Registers of Passage Cases '''IOR/L/MIL/14/195-212''']  1909-1947. The registers cover claims to passage money, arranged by regiment, and giving ship and date of sailing, reason, and whether accompanied by a family. Each contains an index
 
*[http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlmil_8-1&cid=1-2-8#1-2-8  Indian Army Registers of Passage Cases '''IOR/L/MIL/14/195-212''']  1909-1947. The registers cover claims to passage money, arranged by regiment, and giving ship and date of sailing, reason, and whether accompanied by a family. Each contains an index
 
*[[The National Archives| National Archives, Kew]] British Army [http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/browse/C77327 WO 25/3502-3528: Embarkation and Disembarkation Returns 1789-1907] including
 
*[[The National Archives| National Archives, Kew]] British Army [http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/browse/C77327 WO 25/3502-3528: Embarkation and Disembarkation Returns 1789-1907] including

Revision as of 12:24, 23 July 2021

UK Ports passenger lists 1878-1960

Ancestry contains the dataset "UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960"[1], (located in Immigration & Travel/Passenger Lists) which contain the names of people arriving at United Kingdom ports from places outside Europe, based on records from The National Archives, Kew.
Note: The Ancestry transcribed field "Port of Departure" appears to be the first port of departure of the ship, not the port of departure of the person. It may be necessary to look at the image to find the port of departure of the person.[2]

Findmypast contains the dataset "Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960"[3], located in Travel & migration, based on records from The National Archives.
Ancestry also contains a similar database "UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960". located in Immigration & Travel.[4]

Note however, the above websites only contain persons who travelled the entire journey to and from India via a UK port. A researcher advised: "Many people travelling from India found it faster and more convenient to travel by steamer to Marseilles and take the train direct to Calais and then by regular ferry to Dover. Entry into England by this route was not recorded. Many of my relatives did this (we know from letters) but no official records were kept. Frustrating for us later!"[5]

The National Archives guide How to look for records of Passengers gives more details.

Both the above sites are free to search, but require payment to view the records. They are free to view at the National Archives. Some Libraries may have free access, refer Miscellaneous tips. Some Genealogy Societies provide free access from their libraries if you are a member.

Australia Passenger Lists

  • Findmypast database "Australia, Inward, Outward & Coastal Passenger Lists 1826-1972"[6] located in Travel & Migration/ Passenger Lists was introduced c 2021/05/07 with more records added c 2021/07/23. The records are from multiple Australian sources.
  • For passenger lists between India and Australia also see Australia

FIBIS resources

Earlier passenger lists

Military embarkation records

References

  1. UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 ancestry.co.uk. The National Archives (TNA) collection series BT26.
  2. MoVidger. http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/topic15943.html, now no longer available. Post titled 'Samuel Howarth (1907-1980) - Royal Artillery" Who do you think you are? Forum 13 -14 October 2017. The "Port of Departure" was advised to be in Chile, but later it was stated the image advised Bermuda as the departure place of the person. Retrieved 14 October 2017.
  3. Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960 findmypast. The National Archives (TNA) collection series BT27.
  4. UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Ancestry
  5. Stanes, Peter. Passenger lists Rootsweb India Mailing List 29 July 2012, archived.
  6. Australia, Inward, Outward & Coastal Passenger Lists 1826-1972 Findmypast.
  7. eleanore. P&O SS Candia Passengers 1858 from India and China Rootsweb India Mailing List 31 March 2011, archived.
  8. eleanore. Transit Through Egypt 1858 Rootsweb India Mailing List 3 April 2011, archived.
  9. British Army Embarkation Lists, 1871-1889 Findmypast database.