User talk:Sarahb

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3/2009 - 9/2009

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Jheeghun

Sorry. I have fixed the coordinates. Jheeghun is described as 17 miles from Chutterpore (Chhatarpur). You probably noticed that by mapping the Nerbudda Fild Force route I finally pinpointed Kurrereah as Kararia. I also managed to correct Bhowragarh location. Small triumphs!--Sy 02:15, 6 October 2009 (PDT)

Amritsar

I liked the photo of the young Sikhs around the Jallianwala Bagh fountain even if it is not "historical". It's a sobering place to visit. As for the licence, you know I'm pretty hazy on this subject. I will go with whatever you think appropriate.
Is the Massacre a bit too one sided to be under Battles? We have the Delhi massacre in that category. We also have the Battle of Trimmoo Ghaut which should be called a massacre as John Nicholson annihilated the 46th BNI. Again there is Cawnpore (Bibigarh) which was no battle but the slaughter of helpless prisoners. Also I am about to write a page for the destruction of the 26th BNI which was wiped out at Ajnala after surrendering. Maybe we should have a Category:Outrages but it is dangerously subjective. A FIBIS policy decision?
I have also made a few pages recently for the outbreak of mutiny at various locations. I have put them under Indian Mutiny obviously but also under Battles and used the Battle Info Box. They can't really go under Mutinies as they would look as though they were separate from the Indian Mutiny. Any suggestions?--Sy 10:38, 14 October 2009 (PDT)

Campaign Maps

I have just found on the Fibiwiki Main Page the link to Fibiwiki Battle Maps. This leads to 44 maps on 9 pages. The inconsistent thing is that they are not battle maps but war or campaign maps. They are also in a random order and as far as I can see you can't search for a title. If you put Sind Campaign into the search bar you get Campaign Court, Chantry Close, Westminster, London W9, UK! They are also in Map format though Terrain format would be preferable. I don't think this is the most helpful link. Have you any influence?--Sy 10:38, 15 October 2009 (PDT)

I think it is great to draw attention to the maps on the Fibiwiki Main Page. I just think the link is confusing. Can we link to a Google Maps window showing all the maps as you can when you are logged in and click My Maps? If not, a link to the Category:Campaigns_with_FIBIS_Battle_Maps with extra explanation would be fine. To me Battle Map or Battlemap indicates a plan showing the disposal of the armed forces on the ground. Campaign maps seems more appropriate or is that just too pedantic?

On our earlier subject of what comes under Battles, would it be helpful if the title were 'Battles and Actions' as was the original table?--Sy 04:21, 16 October 2009 (PDT)

Photographs

I need a clarification for a photograph. Can I put up copyright photograph if I ask the photographer for permission (via email) for it to be uploaded to this site. It would still retain it copyright status. It would be for photographs for which free images are difficult to get. Also it can be removed once a free image is found. Thanks. Rzafar 07:51, 7 November 2009 (PST)

User Talk

When I left a message on Sy's User Talk I noticed the Date and Time generated were not correct. Maureene 22:23, 13 December 2009 (PST)

Veterinary Surgeon

Hi Sarah. Re Veterinary Surgeons/IMS . At least up until 1860 they were part of the IMS, being listed above Warrant Officer Apothecaries. http://books.google.com/books?id=O94NAAAAQAAJ&pg=PR9 1838 Bengal Directory; http://books.google.com/books?id=ahe1AAAAIAAJ&pg=RA1-PR17 Madras October 1860Maureene 14:23, 16 December 2009 (PST)

Non-British Ancestors

Hi Sarah re http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Category:Non-British_Ancestors. The information on this page, being a category, does not show up in a search.Is it possible to put the information into an article? Regards Maureene 04:44, 20 December 2009 (PST)

Indian Civil Service

Hi Sarah I was just looking at a link which Lee added and I think I managed to delete it.I don't know how this happened as I didn't physically delete.I haven't touched it again. Regards Maureene 02:41, 29 December 2009 (PST) Lee has now fixed this up Regards Maureene 18:26, 29 December 2009 (PST)

Scholars or antiquarians‎

Sorry Sarah I was copying an old link to see if I could find an archived version and somehow I managed to reinstate it. Obviously I am doing something incorrect when I look at past versions.See previous post also. Maureene 20:41, 3 January 2010 (PST)

Biographies

Glad you approve. I was going to ask you: Is it worthwhile putting all the biographies on the War page in addition to the specific ones on the Battles pages? I thought a list in the War article would be helpful.

There is a wealth of information in the archive books that Maureen has found and which I am beginning to explore. Finding them on the archive site is not very easy. I found Volumes 1 and 2 of the Duke of Wellington's despatches but not a later one covering the 4th Mysore War. I can't decide whether this is because it was not published (wouldn't they have covered his whole period?) or that it has not been digitized (woudn't they have done all of them?).--Sy 05:08, 6 January 2010 (PST)

Thanks for finding Vol III--Sy 01:26, 7 January 2010 (PST)

Redirect

Maureen has recently added 3rd Light Dragoons with an on-line book she has found. 3rd Light Dragoons was an earlier name of 17th Dragoons so I transferred the information there. I tried to put a redirect on 3rd Light Dragoons but it doesn't work. Clearly I have lost my marbles again. What have I done wrong?--Sy 01:26, 7 January 2010 (PST)

Hi Sarah and Sy. The online book in question was written in 1846 and the Regiment was then called the 3rd Light Dragoons. I think this is a different regiment to the 17th Dragoons, which was called 3rd Light Dragoons at a much earlier date. RegardsMaureene 02:02, 7 January 2010 (PST)

Bengal Infantry

I am trying to get to grips with the chronology of the various Bengal Infantry Regiments before the Mutiny. The archive.org volume here has been very useful if a bit muddly but it only goes up to the reorganisation of 1796. I attach the spreadsheet I have made to try to analyse the changes. It contains a number of unresolved contradictions and is not helped by the relatively few details in the regiments.org website here. Our list, in common with others, uses the titles as at the reorganisation of 1824 and I think these remained unchanged until 1857. I have not been able to find any details of the 1824 changes. With your superior internet powers, have you any suggestion where I can look further?--Sy 03:03, 11 January 2010 (PST)

Great template. I will of course add it from now on. As you can see I have made some progress revising the BNI pages. I have a feeling I have done the easy bit as I have got to regiments which were formed after the 1796 and before the 1824 reorganisation. I am not sure yet how we track them. For instance the 14th BNI started in 1765 but its number changed to 19th in 1775. The 24th BNI became 14th in 1775 but mutinied and was disbanded in 1795. The 20th became the 14th in 1795 but changed to 2nd Btn 10th in 1796. A new 14th was formed in 1824 from 1st Btn 10th and it is the 1824 numbers that we are using in our list. Perhaps we should have a table with the regiment numbers listed vertically and cells along the row to link to the pedigree of the regiment in 1764, 1775, 1781, 1796 etc. Any thoughts?--Sy 00:47, 16 January 2010 (PST)

Society Reading List

Hi Sarah Could you change the link mentioned for George Atkinson, author of Curry and Rice,as the existing one no longer works. It is the second link, not the one to the actual book Curry and Rice. http://www.archive.org/stream/balladsofburmaan00oolarich#page/4/mode/2up Regards Maureene 02:13, 16 January 2010 (PST)

100th Regiment of Foot/92nd Regiment of Foot

Hi Sarah. I have just added a link here. All the time the Regiment was in India it was known as the 92nd Foot, I think that is the more meaningful heading, not the 100th Foot. Regards Maureene 03:24, 17 January 2010 (PST)

Gordon Highlanders

Looking at the pages I think the current page should be renamed 92nd Regt and a new page made for 100th. 75th and 92nd joined in 1881 to become 1st and 2nd Btn Gordon Highlanders. There were several 100th Regts see Wikipedia. Our new 100th page could sweep up the various strands. The one that fought in India was this one.

I am struggling with a head full of Bengal Infantry at the moment. If you agree with the above we could change the title and put a note on the 100th page "coming soon". I will put it on my list.--Sy 07:56, 18 January 2010 (PST)

Bengal Infantry

Sarah, I have had a shot at a table to access the various regiments at different times. Would you mind having a look at Bengal Infantry Table. The idea is to list the regiments in chronological order for each of the critical dates and link the regiment number to the relevant regiment page. I have put in a few as an example. I now realise that this wont cover all the variables. For instance 19th Battalion was raised in 1764 but was broken up in 1781. This doesn't feature so far on our regiment pages which only covers the replacement 19th which is shown on our page for 17th Regiment of Bengal Native Infantry. Any suggestions as to how we can address this?--Sy 11:09, 18 January 2010 (PST)

Military online autobiographies

Hi Sarah and Sy: Can you suggest a page for military autobiographies where they seem to have changed regiments a lot, so you can’t put them on the Regiments page, I can't work what war or battle to place them in, but the book seems to contain content of interest. Would a section on the bottom of Chronological list of Wars and Campaigns be satisfactory?
Eg

• Memoirs of the early life and service of a field officer on the retired list of the Indian armyby Major David Price 1839 Google Books (service from 1780)
• Military reminiscences: extracted from a journal of nearly forty years' active service in the East Indies Volume 1 by James Welsh of the Madras Establishment 1830 Volume 2 (Service from 1790)
• Forty One Years in India: From subaltern to commander-in-chief Volume 1 by Field Marshal Lord Roberts of Kandahar 1897 Chapter 6 onwards. Archive.org (I did put this one under Indian Mutiny) Volume 2 1898 Regards Maureene 22:44, 18 January 2010 (PST)

I suggest these general biographies could be put on the war pages as well as any special Military Biography page.--Sy 04:58, 19 January 2010 (PST)

Hi Sarah and Sy: i found out more about Major David Price and was able to place him, I hope correctly. James Welsh was in the Poligar War. Realised to day these are the Polygar Wars.However what is there for the 1st and 2nd Polygar War is a Category, not an article and does not come up in searching. Could you copy the information onto an artice, and I will add an external link. Thanks Maureene

More on Bengal Infantry

I have a suggestion for the problem I raised above. Please have a look at 19th Regiment of Bengal Native Infantry and tell me what you think. Maybe the box size/colour could be adjusted.--Sy 04:58, 19 January 2010 (PST)

Bengal regiments again

Sounds fine to me. I didn't like the appearance of the boxed panel anyway

I have just expanded the table to four panels of 20 regiments with links filled in for the 74 regiment which existed in 1824. This gives an idea of the whole page. Comments?--Sy 07:41, 19 January 2010 (PST)

Bengal Infantry Table

Well I am off for a month tomorrow morning and must draw a line under this. You will see that I have entered the first 30 odd regiments on the Bengal Infantry Table. I have created some of the early units as Battalions but there are still gaps and the whole thing needs a thorough going over as I am sure there are contradictions. If we could find another list of regiments as a cross check it would help. I don't think we are ready for this page to go live yet so I haven't added a category link. Talk to you again at the end of February. Regards --Sy 09:53, 21 January 2010 (PST)