Changes

Jump to navigation Jump to search

Chaplains Returns

2,121 bytes added, 11:41, 18 October 2023
External links
Note that if a record is available both in the India Office [[Church records]] (now available on findmypast (pay website)) and in the General Register Office records, the latter may contain more information, at least for some time periods. By way of example, in 1903 the additional information available for a marriage record was the nationalities of the groom and bride, and the occupations of the fathers of the groom and bride.
There is also a series of records which includes India, (held by the General Register Office, and not on open access), known as the '''Regimental Registers 1761-1924''' which are original entries of births/baptisms, marriages and (far fewer) deaths/burials kept by various regiments and relate to the families of officers and other ranks at home and on foreign stations from 1790.<ref name=FSW >[https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/British_Births,_Marriages_and_Deaths_Overseas#Regimental_Registers Regimental Registers] FamilySearch Wiki. </ref> Included in this series are records of regimental marriages taking place between 1761 and 1924 that have never been indexed. As these additional records have never been indexed, they are not included in the data on findmypast or other websites. If you can provide the man's name and regiment, and approximate date the GRO will search their records. Email the [[General Register Office|GRO]] with GQ in the subject header, eg "GQ Regimental Marriage Registers", to avoid receiving an automated reply.<ref>Downes, Pam [https://www.british-genealogy.com/threads/4364-GRO-Regimental-Birth-Indices GRO Regimental Birth Indices] 04-03-2005 British-Genealogy.com Forum. Retrieved 6 April 2015.</ref> There is a summary list of regiments and of dates covered for births and marriages in an Appendix to ''My ancestor was in the British Army'' by Michael J. and Christopher T. Watts (See pages<ref>[https://archive.org/details/myancestorwasinb0000watt/page/124/mode/2up Garrison and Station Registers (Original Registers) now held by the GRO] page 124; <br>[https://archive.org/details/myancestorwasinb0000watt/page/240/mode/2up Pages including Regimental Registers] pages 240-243 ''My ancestor was in the British Army'' by Michael J. and Christopher T. Watts (Society of Genealogists, 1995),2014 reprint of 2009 edition. Archive.org Books to Borrow/Lending Library.</ref name=FSW /> ) and an also of locations, and a further online listing of the regiments (but no dates) which also includes Army of Black Sea, Salonica Force and Egyptian Garrisons.<ref> Available on Familyrelatives.com (refer [[Chaplains Returns#Accessing the above British Army Overseas Indexes|Accessing the above British Army Overseas Indexes]]) in the free database "GRO List of Army Registers"</ref> (but no dates) which also includes Army of Black Sea, Salonica Force and Egyptian Garrisons. Indexes for the records which have been indexed, are available on [[Findmypast|findmypast]]. In respect of "Regimental Birth Indexes –[these] may show several index references for the same person. As a soldier moved from one regiment to another, he had to register himself and his family each time for pay purposes. If you find more than one index reference for same person, provide all references and we will produce the entry with the most information".<ref>[http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know.asp Certificate ordering Service: Most customers want to know...] www.gro.gov.uk (Scroll down)</ref>==FIBIS resources==*FIBIS database [https://search.fibis.org/bin/aps_browse_sources.php?mode=browse_components&id=1257&s_id=378 WW1 British Officers of the Indian Army and Royal Marine], (consisting of two component databases, which it is possible to search together or separately) located in Military records/Military Rolls & Lists/Casualty Lists, includes some (but not all) index records from the GRO database "War Deaths Indian Services 1914-1921", see below.
==Accessing the above British Army Overseas Indexes==
:[https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/world-records/full-list-of-united-kingdom-records/life-events-bmds Findmypast article] Scroll down the left side to GRO to see the many GRO Indexes included in the findmypast databases. Note currently (2019/07) if you wish to search within the GRO Indexes on findmypast, your only option is to select one of the databases British Armed Forces and Overseas Births, Marriages or Deaths, as there is no option to specifically search one of the GRO indexes. Note, it does '''not''' seem possible to browse through a specific GRO Index on Findmypast. However, should you wish to look at the entire Index (e.g. looking for possible mis-transcriptions) it is possible to "create" an Index by looking at the Findmypast description of the database, then category "Sources available" and finding the Archive reference. Then select this Archive reference in the Search and then click on the Search icon, when the results listed should be the entire Index.
:'''Update''' "...thousands of new records from The National Archives and the General Register Office" were added 8 October 2021 in the categories Births and Deaths, "births at sea, fallen seamen and more" but specific details were not provided.
*GRO "War Deaths Indian Services 1914-1921". The index for this dataset is briefly mentioned in the [https://web.archive.org/web/20070221104808/http://www.familyrecords.gov.uk/frc/pdfs/british_in_india.pdf Fact Sheet: The British in India] from the now closed [[Family Records Centre]], a joint venture with The National Archives, but the National Archives has advised it does not hold this Index.<ref> Email from TNA to User:Maureene dated 5 November 2020.</ref> "They relate to the Indian Army, Marines and other services". The AIGS (Australian Institute of Genealogical Studies, or Family History Connections) [https://www.familyhistoryconnections.org.au library] in Melbourne Victoria has reference to this index as a book in its collection, title ''Overseas indexes:'' subtitle ''war deaths in the Indian Services, 1914-1921'', number 355.305 GEN, which is however missing surnames "Heale to Meade", and consists of Officers only. :'''Update''' 20 October 2022. The data available from AIGS in Melbourne has been transcribed and is available as part of the FIBIS database "WW1 British Officers of the Indian Army and Royal Marine", see [[Chaplains Returns#FIBIS resources|FIBIS resources]] above. Note however, as mentioned previously, it is missing surnames "Heale to Meade", and consists of Officers only.
:This GRO index database is '''not''' included in either Familyrelatives.com, or findmypast.
:"General Register Office Enquiry" (email <nowiki>grofirstpointofcontact@gro.gov.uk</nowiki> current 2020/07) advised it is possible to "place an order quoting ‘War Deaths Indian Services 1914-1921’ and we can carry out a search of the indexes for you. If the search is unsuccessful, ...a refund will be issued. This is the fee you paid less any administrative costs incurred....". Subsequent advice (2020/07/27) was "The index should include all ranks and not just officers".
== External links ==
*[http://www.cwgc.org Commonwealth War Graves Commission]. For more detais see, [[Cemeteries# CWGC| Cemeteries – CWGC]].
*[https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/British_Births,_Marriages_and_Deaths_Overseas British Births, Marriages and Deaths Overseas]. FamilySearch Wiki. Based on three articles by [https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/User:AnthonyJCamp Anthony Camp], formerly Director of [[Society of Genealogists]], in ''Family Tree Magazine'' [UK] Volume 16, No. 9, 10 and 12 published July, August and October 2000, available on[https://archive.org/details/pt1-camp-july2000p13/Pt1CampJuly2000p13.jpg Archive.org] but missing final page.
*National Archives Guide [https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/birth-marriage-death-armed-forces/ How to look for records of... Births, marriages and deaths in the armed forces]
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20200715044802/http://www.sog.org.uk/uploads/Else_Churchill_-_British_Overseas_Records_in_the_UK.pdf Sources for the British Overseas in the GRO, TNA, Guildhall, SoG Library] by Else Churchill, archived. Images, but minimal text, one of a series of [https://web.archive.org/web/20210225135221/http://www.sog.org.uk/learn/who-do-you-think-you-are-2013-speakers-handouts/ 2013 presentations]. sog.org.uk, archived pages. Images of actual records available.
****There is also some information about deaths, including some photographs of grave inscriptions, and also baptisms and marriages, scattered through the regimental pages on [http://www.maltaramc.com/index.html British Army Medical Services and the Malta Garrison 1799 – 1979]. Includes a website Search.
***There are some church records for Malta available at the [[London Metropolitan Archives]]
*** The Findmypast datasets described above "British Armed Forces and Overseas Births, Marriages, Deaths" include Malta. There is also a Findmypast newspaper database ''Daily Malta Chronicle and Garrison Gazette'', 1896-1904, 1909-1918, (introduced 31 March 2023), a newspaper for British servicemen which included birth, marriage and death notices.
***[https://www.deceasedonline.com deceased online], a website which is free to search but pay to view, has some records for military burials in Malta, also Egypt, Cyprus and Singapore. These records are described as "Selected pieces from the National Archives WO 156/103-122'", which are "UK and overseas garrisons; Registers of burials". For more details, from the deceased online Home Page, select 'Coverage' and scroll down to " “The National Archives - Military Burials” date added: 12 Dec 2013". Also includes records from the National Archives series ADM 6, ADM 73, ADM 305. The majority/all? of the WO 156 records are also available on Findmypast.
***Details of [https://web.archive.org/web/20180723040408/http://website.lineone.net/~mcgoa/malta2.html Malta Registers at The National Archives] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20180723040404/http://website.lineone.net/~mcgoa/malta1.html Registers in Class ADM]. Includes B, M, B. (Note: (selected) burials are now available online, refer above). Alan McGowan’s "Garrison Church Registers", now an archived website.
***[[findmypast]] includes a group of records from Gibraltar, some baptisms, marriages and burials from St Andrew's Kirk, which appear to be related to the military, or seamen, and some marriage indexes supplied by FamilySearch. From the Search, select A-Z of record sets, then use Search term Gibraltar to locate the record databases.
**Egypt had compulsory civil registration for births and deaths from 1912 for all, including foreigners. <ref> [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/isp/013_the_develop_of_the_vital_stat_system_in_egypt.pdf The Development of the Vital Statistics System in Egypt] by Gamal Askar January 1981.</ref> [https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Egypt_Genealogy Egypt Genealogy] FamilySearch Wiki.
*:A List of Australian Army nurses who married overseas during WW1 includes some who married in Egypt.<ref> frev (Heather Ford) [https://www.greatwarforum.org/blogs/entry/2836-aans-nurses-who-married-overseas-during-ww1/ AANS NURSES WHO MARRIED OVERSEAS DURING WW1] ''Great War Forum blog'' 15 October 2023, retrieved 18 October 2023.</ref>**Baghdad, Iraq/Mesopotamia. [https://www.stevebusterjohnson.com/raf-hinaidi-burials-database Burials at Hinaidi RAF Cemetery (now Ma'Asker Al Raschid RAF Cemetery): Searchable Database of 299 Graves] from 1921-1937. [https://www.stevebusterjohnson.com/_files/ugd/8b4727_2d077ae0211b4083826259f69fc1773f.pdf Direct pdf, edition 8 July 2022] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20220708233325/https://www.stevebusterjohnson.com/_files/ugd/8b4727_2d077ae0211b4083826259f69fc1773f.pdf archived]). 196 of the 299 graves are for Royal Air Force casualties from eight RAF squadrons. There are also 71 graves for British Army personnel, 2 Royal Navy and 30 civilian. There are additional internal links about the cemetery. ''6 Squadron, Books & Early Military Aviation'' website.
===Historical books online===
*[https://www.archive.org/stream/miscellaneagenea02bann#page/n9/mode/2up/search/Rocco "Monumental Inscriptions of the British Cemeteries in the Ionian Islands"] by Ortho Alexander, British Consul, pages 13, 71, 110, 146, 320 ''Miscellanea genealogica et heraldica, Volume II, Fourth Series'' 1908. Many Army and Navy entries. Archive.org
29,533
edits

Navigation menu