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There is also a series of records which includes India, (held by the General Register Office, and not on open access), known as the '''Regimental Registers 1761-1924''' which are original entries of births/baptisms, marriages and (far fewer) deaths/burials kept by various regiments and relate to the families of officers and other ranks at home and on foreign stations from 1790.<ref name=FSW >
[https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/British_Births,_Marriages_and_Deaths_Overseas#Regimental_Registers Regimental Registers] FamilySearch Wiki. </ref> Included in this series are records of regimental marriages taking place between 1761 and 1924 that have never been indexed. As these additional records have never been indexed, they are not included in the data on findmypast or other websites. If you can provide the man's name and regiment, and approximate date the GRO will search their records. Email the [[General Register Office|GRO]] with GQ in the subject header, eg "GQ Regimental Marriage Registers", to avoid receiving an automated reply.<ref>Downes, Pam [https://www.british-genealogy.com/threads/4364-GRO-Regimental-Birth-Indices GRO Regimental Birth Indices] 04-03-2005 British-Genealogy.com Forum. Retrieved 6 April 2015.</ref> There is a summary list of regiments and of dates covered for births and marriages in an Appendix to ''My ancestor was in the British Army'' by Michael J. and Christopher T. Watts (Society of Genealogists, 1995),<ref name=FSW /> and an online listing of the regiments (but no dates).<ref> Available on Familyrelatives.com (refer External links[[Chaplains Returns#Accessing the above British Army Overseas Indexes|Accessing the above British Army Overseas Indexes]]) in the free database "GRO List of Army Registers"</ref> Indexes for the records which have been indexed, are available on [[Findmypast|findmypast]]. In respect of "Regimental Birth Indexes –[these] may show several index references for the same person. As a soldier moved from one regiment to another, he had to register himself and his family each time for pay purposes. If you find more than one index reference for same person, provide all references and we will produce the entry with the most information".<ref>[http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know.asp Certificate ordering Service: Most customers want to know...] www.gro.gov.uk (Scroll down)</ref> ==Accessing the above British Army Overseas Indexes==*[http://www.familyrelatives.com/index.php Familyrelatives.com] contains '''most''' of the GRO Overseas Indexes which include images from the British Army Overseas Indexes which you can access for free, (even though most other records on the site require a subscription). These are viewable images, which have not been transcribed to search. The site requires an up to date Adobe Flash (Flash 11 or later) plug-in to view the images. First you must log in (with first time registration required), from the Home Page, then select 'Search' (from the bar across the top of the page) and then 'Overseas Records'. Then select the database you are interested in. '''Note, some pages from the indexes were missing at one time, so the database may not be complete''' (missing Army marriage pages were noted). (Note: this website became inactive late July 2015, but returned c February 2016).:[https://familyrelatives.com/articles/details.php?aid=46 Familyrelatives.com British Overseas Records] A description of the many GRO Index records on Familyrelatives.com.*[http://www.awin1.com/awclick.php?mid=2114&id=201071 Findmypast] (pay website) contains three separate Index databases called '''British Armed Forces and Overseas Births, Marriages, Deaths''', all of which contain overseas and some UK events, which include many of the British Army Overseas Indexes, (located within BMD). Some Royal Air Force index records are also included. (Note, "Overseas" was amalgamated into this database 2018/01.) There is a charge to search, however the findmypast records have the advantage that at least some (but not Index records) may indicate the relevant regiment. In addition, the database contains indexes for births in the U.K. and overseas, 1761-1924, taken from regimental registers, including births in India. The Armed Forces Deaths database also includes what may be called GRO War Deaths or GRO War Dead.<ref>War Deaths, including World Wars I and II, and the Boer War. [http://web.archive.org/web/20051223043104/www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/research/searchingforoverseasrecords/index.asp Searching for overseas records] GRO, now an archived web page.</ref> As noted above, WO97 records are also available.:[https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/world-records/full-list-of-united-kingdom-records/life-events-bmds Findmypast article] Scroll down the left side to GRO to see the many GRO Indexes included in the findmypast databases. Note, it does '''not''' seem possible to browse through an Index on findmypast.*The AIGS (Australian Institute of Genealogical Studies, or Family History Connections) library in Melbourne Victoria has reference to a book [GRO] ''Overseas indexes: war deaths in the Indian Services, 1914-1921'', also referred to as "GRO War Deaths Indian Services, Deaths 1914-1921". The index for this dataset is also briefly mentioned in the [https://web.archive.org/web/20070221104808/http://www.familyrecords.gov.uk/frc/pdfs/british_in_india.pdf Fact Sheet: The British in India] from the now closed [[Family Records Centre]]. This database is '''not''' included in either Familyrelatives.com, or findmypast.*'''If you have found an index reference and you then want to order a certificate, this can be done [http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates online from the GRO]'''. (A charge applies). In the past the certificate has been a transcript, not a copy of the original document, and this is believed to be the current situation. *:'''Note''': *:*For legal reasons, Overseas and Forces certificates are '''not''' available in (the cheaper) PDF format.*:*If you do not supply the GRO Index reference, the certificate will cost more as there is an additional search fee, and it may take longer to be sent.*:*If a record is available both in the India Office Church record series on [[findmypast]] and in the GRO records, the latter may contain more information, at least for some time periods. By way of example, in 1903 the additional information available for a marriage record was the nationalities of the groom and bride, and the occupations of the fathers of the groom and bride.*:*The GRO certificates for War Deaths only contain limited information, which is taken from Army records, and an example shows it shows only the general terminology "killed in action".<ref>Ellis1918. [http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/topic/253019-death-certs/?do=findComment&comment=2558394 Death certs?] Great War Forum 27 August 2017. Retrieved 29 August 2017.</ref>*FamilySearch microfilm/microfiche records relating to various Indexes mentioned above, with [https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&query=%2Bkeywords%3ANational%20%2Bkeywords%3AStatist catalogue entry] by keyword search National Statist. These records are expected to be digitised in time. See [[FamilySearch Centres]] for more details.
==Other National Archives records==
*Some marriage and baptismal information for Royal Artillery soldiers and their family, including India related details, may be found in the National Archives series WO 69. Some of this information has been transcribed and may be found by entering the surname and “WO69” in the National Archives [http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk Discovery Search]. Many of the records in this series were destroyed during the Second World War, so the records are incomplete. Also see [[Royal Artillery]] for more information.*Ancestry (pay website) includes a database [http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=60931 UK, British Army and Navy Birth, Marriage and Death Records, 1730-1960] (located in BMD records). This database consists mainly of Naval records, sourced from the National Archives, with relatively few records in respect of the British Army and does '''not''' include the GRO records referred to above.
== Other Archives==
British Armed Forces, Roman Catholic Registers have been digitised from The Scottish Catholic Archives and are available on findmypast (pay website)in the database '''British Armed Forces, Roman Catholic Registers''' 1836-1975 (located within BMDs, introduced 2017/11). There is a related Browse database. See "External links"The registers were created by the Bishopric of the Forces, the religious officials of the Roman Catholic Church responsible for the pastoral care of Roman Catholics in the military. Includes locations in the UK as well as bases in Cairo, Cyprus, Malta, belowand more.
==See also==
== External links ==
*[http://www.familyrelatives.com/index.php Familyrelatives.com] contains '''most''' of the GRO Overseas Indexes which include images from the British Army Overseas Indexes which you can access for free, (even though most other records on the site require a subscription). These are viewable images, which have not been transcribed to search. The site requires an up to date Adobe Flash (Flash 11 or later) plug-in to view the images. First you must log in (with first time registration required), from the Home Page, then select 'Search' (from the bar across the top of the page) and then 'Overseas Records'. Then select the database you are interested in. '''Note, some pages from the indexes were missing at one time, so the database may not be complete''' (missing Army marriage pages were noted). (Note: this website became inactive late July 2015, but returned c February 2016).
:[https://familyrelatives.com/articles/details.php?aid=46 Familyrelatives.com British Overseas Records] A description of the GRO Index records on Familyrelatives.com.
*[http://www.awin1.com/awclick.php?mid=2114&id=201071 Findmypast] (pay website) contains three separate Index databases called '''British Armed Forces and Overseas Births, Marriages, Deaths''', all of which contain overseas and some UK events, which include the British Army Overseas Indexes, (located within BMD). Some Royal Air Force index records are also included. (Note, "Overseas" was amalgamated into this database 2018/01.) There is a charge to search, however the findmypast records have the advantage that at least some (but not Index records) may indicate the relevant regiment. In addition, the database contains indexes for births in the U.K. and overseas, 1761-1924, taken from regimental registers, including births in India. The Armed Forces Deaths database also includes what may be called GRO War Deaths or GRO War Dead.<ref>War Deaths, including World Wars I and II, and the Boer War. [http://web.archive.org/web/20051223043104/www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/research/searchingforoverseasrecords/index.asp Searching for overseas records] GRO, now an archived web page.</ref> As noted above, WO97 records are also available.
:[https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/world-records/full-list-of-united-kingdom-records/life-events-bmds Findmypast article] Scroll down the left side to GRO to see the GRO Indexes included in the findmypast databases. Note, it does '''not''' seem possible to browse through an index.
:The AIGS (Australian Institute of Genealogical Studies, or Family History Connections) library in Melbourne Victoria has reference to a book [GRO] ''Overseas indexes: war deaths in the Indian Services, 1914-1921'', also referred to as "GRO War Deaths Indian Services, Deaths 1914-1921". The index for this dataset is also briefly mentioned in the [https://web.archive.org/web/20070221104808/http://www.familyrecords.gov.uk/frc/pdfs/british_in_india.pdf Fact Sheet: The British in India] from the now closed [[Family Records Centre]]. This database is '''not''' included in either Familyrelatives.com, or findmypast.
:'''If you have found an index reference and you then want to order a certificate, this can be done [http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates online from the GRO]'''. (A charge applies). In the past the certificate has been a transcript, not a copy of the original document, and this is believed to be the current situation.
::'''Note''':
::*For legal reasons, Overseas and Forces certificates are '''not''' available in (the cheaper) PDF format.
::*If you do not supply the GRO Index reference, the certificate will cost more as there is an additional search fee, and it may take longer to be sent.
::*If a record is available both in the India Office Church record series on [[findmypast]] and in the GRO records, the latter may contain more information, at least for some time periods. By way of example, in 1903 the additional information available for a marriage record was the nationalities of the groom and bride, and the occupations of the fathers of the groom and bride.
::*The GRO certificates for War Deaths only contain limited information, which is taken from Army records, and an example shows it shows only the general terminology "killed in action".<ref>Ellis1918. [http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/topic/253019-death-certs/?do=findComment&comment=2558394 Death certs?] Great War Forum 27 August 2017. Retrieved 29 August 2017.</ref>
:Findmypast also contains the database '''British Armed Forces, Roman Catholic Registers''' 1836-1975 (located within BMDs, introduced 2017/11). There is a related Browse database. The registers were created by the Bishopric of the Forces, the religious officials of the Roman Catholic Church responsible for the pastoral care of Roman Catholics in the military, and are from The Scottish Catholic Archives. Includes locations in the UK as well as bases in Cairo, Cyprus, Malta, and more.
*Ancestry (pay website) includes a database [http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=60931 UK, British Army and Navy Birth, Marriage and Death Records, 1730-1960] (located in BMD records). This database consists mainly of Naval records, sourced from the National Archives, with relatively few records in respect of the British Army and does '''not''' include the GRO records referred to above.
*[http://www.cwgc.org Commonwealth War Graves Commission]. For more detais see, [[Cemeteries# CWGC| Cemeteries – CWGC]].
 
*National Archives Guide [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/birthmarriagedeatharmedforces.htm Looking for records of a birth, marriage or death in the armed forces]
*FamilySearch microfilm/microfiche records relating to various Indexes mentioned above, with [https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&query=%2Bkeywords%3ANational%20%2Bkeywords%3AStatist catalogue entry] by keyword search National Statist. These records are expected to be digitised in time. See [[FamilySearch Centres]] for more details.
 
*Mediterranean area
**Malta. Some regiments in India came from a posting in Malta, or were posted there after leaving India.
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