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:Google Books snippet view extract “189. Hanoverian Troops in the East Indies(Madras) 1782-1787. Colonel Sir Lonsdale Hale, speaking at the Royal United Service Institution on 29 October 1913 (''Journal of the Royal United Service Institution, Volume 63'', page 315) said:-
:Google Books snippet view extract “189. Hanoverian Troops in the East Indies(Madras) 1782-1787. Colonel Sir Lonsdale Hale, speaking at the Royal United Service Institution on 29 October 1913 (''Journal of the Royal United Service Institution, Volume 63'', page 315) said:-
:I find that in 1782, the 15th and 16th Hanoverian Regiments are mentioned (i.e. in Madras Presidency Orders) .Then there comes in later a 14th Hanoverian Regiment." He also quoted a Madras order of 17 July, 1787, as follows : — " Col. Wangenheim will receive certain allowances the day after his arrival at Madras, being the day he assumes the command of the Electoral Troops. ...”
:I find that in 1782, the 15th and 16th Hanoverian Regiments are mentioned (i.e. in Madras Presidency Orders) .Then there comes in later a 14th Hanoverian Regiment." He also quoted a Madras order of 17 July, 1787, as follows : — " Col. Wangenheim will receive certain allowances the day after his arrival at Madras, being the day he assumes the command of the Electoral Troops. ...”
*A possible source of information is the German language ''Geschichte der könglich-hannoverschen Armee'' by Luis Heinrich F. von Sichart published 1866-1871, in five volumes, with Volume 3 in two parts (a total of 6 in all). Available at Oxford University Bodleian Library (stored offsite). [http://books.google.com/books?id=SeUcFqwtfdIC&pg=PR1  Volume 1, 1631-1705] Google Books [http://www.archive.org/stream/geschichtederkn02sichgoog#page/n6/mode/1up Volume 2 1705- 1756] Archive.org
*A possible source of information is the German language ''Geschichte der könglich-hannoverschen Armee'' by Luis Heinrich F. von Sichart published 1866-1871, in five volumes, with Volume 3 in two parts (a total of 6 in all). Volume 5 is by A. and R. von Sichart.  Available at Oxford University Bodleian Library (stored offsite). [http://books.google.com/books?id=SeUcFqwtfdIC&pg=PR1  Volume 1, 1631-1705] Google Books [http://www.archive.org/stream/geschichtederkn02sichgoog#page/n6/mode/1up Volume 2 1705- 1756] Archive.org


==Individuals==
==Individuals==

Revision as of 10:06, 18 October 2010

The Hanoverian Regiments were in India 1782-1792.

Two regiments were raised to serve in India, from the region known as Chur- Hannover or Kurhannover. A map is shown in Kurhannover (German language Wikipedia).

The troops were also known as Electoral troops, or Hanoverian Electoral troops, a reference to George III who was also Elector of Hannover.

Histories

  • The Royal Military Calendar, Or Army Service and Commission Book: Third Edition Volume 3, page 97 by John Philippart 1820 Google Books contains a short description of the service of the Regiments in India
  • Hannoversche Truppen in Ostindien from Geschichte der churhannoverschen Truppen in Gibraltar: Minorca und Ostindien] by Ernst von dem Knesebeck 1845 Google Books (German language)
  • "Die kurhannoverschen Truppen in Ostindien 1782–92", by Victor Von Diebitsch in Hannoversche Geschichtsblätter, (1898),pages 67–8, 74–5, 82–3, 90–2, 98–9, 106–8, 114–16, 128; (possibly available at the British Library, where the title is in the catalogue, but it is not known if 1898 is held)
  • Article "German Voices from India : Officers of the Hanoverian Regiments in East India Company Service" by Chen Tzoref-Ashkenazi, in South Asia: Journal of South Asian Studies, Volume 32, Issue 2 August 2009 , pages 189 - 211.Details. Available at the British Library. . An earlier paper by the same author "German Officers in Early Colonial India" was presented at a conference in 2007. The abstract of the paper, page 2 of this pdf, states “During their service [1782-1792], dozens of letters written by Hanoverian officers were published in German magazines, in which they described the war and their personal experiences and impressions of India, and three of them published books about their time in India. This paper analyses these publications...”
  • Journal of the Society for Army Historical Research: Volumes 3-4 1924 page 206 (unclear which volume) .Available at the British Library
Google Books snippet view extract “189. Hanoverian Troops in the East Indies(Madras) 1782-1787. Colonel Sir Lonsdale Hale, speaking at the Royal United Service Institution on 29 October 1913 (Journal of the Royal United Service Institution, Volume 63, page 315) said:-
I find that in 1782, the 15th and 16th Hanoverian Regiments are mentioned (i.e. in Madras Presidency Orders) .Then there comes in later a 14th Hanoverian Regiment." He also quoted a Madras order of 17 July, 1787, as follows : — " Col. Wangenheim will receive certain allowances the day after his arrival at Madras, being the day he assumes the command of the Electoral Troops. ...”
  • A possible source of information is the German language Geschichte der könglich-hannoverschen Armee by Luis Heinrich F. von Sichart published 1866-1871, in five volumes, with Volume 3 in two parts (a total of 6 in all). Volume 5 is by A. and R. von Sichart. Available at Oxford University Bodleian Library (stored offsite). Volume 1, 1631-1705 Google Books Volume 2 1705- 1756 Archive.org

Individuals

  • Lieutenant Colonel Charles Best served in the 14th Hanoverian Regiment, appointed June 1781 The Royal Military Calendar, Or Army Service and Commission Book: Third Edition Volume 4 by John Philippart 1820 Google Books
  • Major Frederick Breymann served in the 14th Hanoverian Regiment in India October 1786- October 1792, the first two years as a soldier and non commissioned officer. The Royal Military Calendar, Or Army Service and Commission Book Third Edition Volume 5 by John Philippart 1820 Google Books
  • Major General Peter Duplat served in the 16th Hanovarian Regiment for its period in India. The Royal Military Calendar, Or Army Service and Commission Book: Third Edition Volume 3 by John Philippart 1820 Google Book
  • Friedrich Ludwig Langstedt (1750–1804). In 1781 he was assigned to the post of chaplain of the 15th regiment of the army of Hanover. He served as chaplain in Madras and Arcot and in 1787 returned to Germany owing to weak health. He is the subject of the article by Chen Tzoref-Ashkenazi "The Experienced Traveller as a Professional Author: Friedrich Ludwig Langstedt, Georg Forster and Colonialism Discourse in Eighteenth-Century Germany", in History: Journal of the Historical Association 16 December 2009 available online, html version (Wiley Online Library).
  • Anthony Pohlmann Wikipedia. He arrived in India as a sergeant in a Hanoverian regiment and subsequently took employment in the army of the Maratha prince, Daulat Scindia. At the Battle of Assaye in 1803, he effectively commanded all the regular battalions in the Maratha army.

External links

  • This India List post and the subsequent post are about the Hanoverian Regiments going to India in 1781.The post advises that they departed in the same convoy as the 78th (Seaforth Highland) Regiment of Foot, later renumbered the 72nd Regiment of Foot