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The Army Chaplains Returns of Burials most likely do not include many deaths in action,  or associated deaths in camp or on the march, including  deaths from disease, such as cholera or heat stroke, where a chaplain did not conduct the burial service. The documentation does not appear  to cover this point. The [[British Army#Muster rolls| Muster roll]]  records should include these deaths.
The Army Chaplains Returns of Burials most likely do not include many deaths in action,  or associated deaths in camp or on the march, including  deaths from disease, such as cholera or heat stroke, where a chaplain did not conduct the burial service. The documentation does not appear  to cover this point. The [[British Army#Muster rolls| Muster roll]]  records should include these deaths.


The Chaplain Returns records were compiled by regimental chaplains and may also be duplicated within the regimental records. The Overseas Section of the [[General Register Office]] in Southport holds these volumes and the indexes can be viewed at [[The National Archives]] (TNA) and online. The FindmyPast [http://www.findmypast.com/helpadvice/knowledge-base/overseas-military/index.jsp link] also advises that the Overseas Section of the [[General Register Office]] also holds additional records of regimental marriages taking place between 1761 and 1924 that have never been indexed.  As these additional records have never been indexed, they are not included in the data on FindMyPast or other websites. If you can provide the man's name and regiment, and approximate date the GRO will search their records. Email the [[General Register Office|GRO]] with GQ in the subject header, eg "GQ Regimental Marriage Registers", to avoid receiving an automated reply
The Chaplain Returns records were compiled by regimental chaplains and may also be duplicated within the regimental records. The Overseas Section of the [[General Register Office]] in Southport holds these volumes and the indexes can be viewed at [[The National Archives]] (TNA) and online. The FindmyPast [http://www.findmypast.com/helpadvice/knowledge-base/overseas-military/index.jsp link] also advises that the Overseas Section of the [[General Register Office]] also holds additional records of regimental marriages taking place between 1761 and 1924 that have never been indexed.  As these additional records have never been indexed, they are not included in the data on FindMyPast or other websites. If you can provide the man's name and regiment, and approximate date the GRO will search their records. Email the [[General Register Office|GRO]] with GQ in the subject header, eg "GQ Regimental Marriage Registers", to avoid receiving an automated reply. A list of the regiments covered in the unindexed records used to be available, but it is not known if it currently is. <ref>"At the FRC [now closed] is a list of the marriage registers, arranged by regiment; if your regiment is there, with entries for the right period, ask at the enquiry desk in the FRC to be put in touch with the Overseas Section, which may conduct a search for you."  [http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?4364-GRO-Regimental-Birth-Indices/page2  Thread from British-Genealogy.com], quoting ''Tracing your Ancestors in The Public Record Office'' by Amanda Bevan (Public Record Office Handbook No.19, sixth edition) page 187-188: Section 181.1.1</ref>


It is not known whether  the book ''Tracing Your Ancestors in The National Archives'' by Amanda Bevan, (7th edn, National Archives Kew, 2006), Chapter 8 - 'Births, marriages and deaths of Britons overseas or in the armed services', includes details of all these military  [[General Register Office]] records.  Another possible source of more information is the book  ''The British Overseas, A Guide to Records of Their Births, Baptisms, Marriages, Deaths and Burials Available in the United Kingdom'' by Geoffrey Yeo  London, 3rd edition 1995.  Both books are available at the [[British Library]].
It is not known whether  the book ''Tracing Your Ancestors in The National Archives'' by Amanda Bevan, (7th edn, National Archives Kew, 2006), Chapter 8 - 'Births, marriages and deaths of Britons overseas or in the armed services', includes details of all these military  [[General Register Office]] records.  Another possible source of more information is the book  ''The British Overseas, A Guide to Records of Their Births, Baptisms, Marriages, Deaths and Burials Available in the United Kingdom'' by Geoffrey Yeo  London, 3rd edition 1995.  Both books are available at the [[British Library]].

Revision as of 07:03, 24 April 2010

The Chaplains Returns of baptisms, marriages and burials 1761-1880. From 1880 they were known as “Army” Births, Deaths and Marriages and from 1959 “Forces” Births, Deaths and Marriages. These records include the registrations of British armed forces (including serving members who were not British nationals) posted overseas. More details are on FindMyPast’s knowledge base link concerning Military and Overseas records and this National Archives' research guide about BMD records in the armed forces, with additional details in this Your Archives’ guide, written 1992, which gives details of a small number of regimental registers in the series WO 68 and WO 69

The Army Chaplains Returns of Burials most likely do not include many deaths in action, or associated deaths in camp or on the march, including deaths from disease, such as cholera or heat stroke, where a chaplain did not conduct the burial service. The documentation does not appear to cover this point. The Muster roll records should include these deaths.

The Chaplain Returns records were compiled by regimental chaplains and may also be duplicated within the regimental records. The Overseas Section of the General Register Office in Southport holds these volumes and the indexes can be viewed at The National Archives (TNA) and online. The FindmyPast link also advises that the Overseas Section of the General Register Office also holds additional records of regimental marriages taking place between 1761 and 1924 that have never been indexed. As these additional records have never been indexed, they are not included in the data on FindMyPast or other websites. If you can provide the man's name and regiment, and approximate date the GRO will search their records. Email the GRO with GQ in the subject header, eg "GQ Regimental Marriage Registers", to avoid receiving an automated reply. A list of the regiments covered in the unindexed records used to be available, but it is not known if it currently is. [1]

It is not known whether the book Tracing Your Ancestors in The National Archives by Amanda Bevan, (7th edn, National Archives Kew, 2006), Chapter 8 - 'Births, marriages and deaths of Britons overseas or in the armed services', includes details of all these military General Register Office records. Another possible source of more information is the book The British Overseas, A Guide to Records of Their Births, Baptisms, Marriages, Deaths and Burials Available in the United Kingdom by Geoffrey Yeo London, 3rd edition 1995. Both books are available at the British Library.

As an example of a record from the Army Birth Returns, a researcher has advised he has a “certified copy” from the GRO taken from “Army Book 112 (Register of Births) of the -th Bn. -th Punjab Regiment for the six months ending 30th June 19-- reported from the Military Station at Isak (North Waziristan)”. Note this Regiment was part of the Indian Army.

He advised: I suspect the official recording and reporting of such events as births to British or foreign Indian Army soldiers’ wives were likely to have been done almost entirely through their Army channels with not a Chaplain in sight and would be dependent on the British/foreign father reporting the birth, although one needs to allow for delays in reporting - I was born before the six months specified above In my case it looks as if my father reported my birth to his adjutant a couple of months or more after the event when he was on operations (that means in a war situation) in Waziristan. [2]

The indexes in respect of the overseas registrations are most commonly called the British Army Overseas Indexes.

The LDS have microfilmed some of the indexes, as listed in this Library Catalogue entry and you can order the microfiches and view them at Family History Centres. However, the indexes are available online, see below.

See also

External Links

  • Familyrelatives.com You can browse the Overseas Indexes, which include the British Army Overseas Indexes on this website for free. If you then want to order a certificate, this can be done online from the GRO. This will be a transcript, not a copy of the original document.

References

  1. "At the FRC [now closed] is a list of the marriage registers, arranged by regiment; if your regiment is there, with entries for the right period, ask at the enquiry desk in the FRC to be put in touch with the Overseas Section, which may conduct a search for you." Thread from British-Genealogy.com, quoting Tracing your Ancestors in The Public Record Office by Amanda Bevan (Public Record Office Handbook No.19, sixth edition) page 187-188: Section 181.1.1
  2. By email to User:Maureene, 23-24 Feb 2010