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==Also see==
*[[Commissariat]], or Army Supply. This Department was responsible for elephants.
==Photographs and drawings==
==Photographs and drawings==
*[http://collections.royalarmouries.org/index.php?a=wordsearch&s=gallery&w=elephant+armour&go=GO Photographs of elephant armour from 1600] with a [http://www.royalarmouries.org/visit-us/leeds/leeds-galleries/oriental/visit-us/leeds/leeds-galleries/oriental/india/single-object/2 description] Royal Armouries, Leeds, UK
*[https://collections.royalarmouries.org/object/rac-object-1761.html Elephant armour (bargustavan-i-pil) (17th century - 18th century)] Click on Media for additional photographs. Royal Armouries, Leeds, UK
*[http://www.lib.lsu.edu/special/exhibits/e-exhibits/india/px2d10.jpg "An Artillery Elephant on Duty"], hand-coloured lithograph by Captain C. Gold; 1799 from [http://www.lib.lsu.edu/special/exhibits/e-exhibits/india/chap2.htm British Voices from South Asia] Louisiana State University
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20150319050741/http://www.lib.lsu.edu/special/exhibits/e-exhibits/india/px2d10.jpg "An Artillery Elephant on Duty"], hand-coloured lithograph by Captain C. Gold; 1799 from [https://web.archive.org/web/20150128013125/http://www.lib.lsu.edu/special/exhibits/e-exhibits/india/chap2.htm British Voices from South Asia] Louisiana State University, now archived webpages.
*[http://community.webshots.com/photo/fullsize/2674157760103299705bRkabQ Drawing of "elephant drawn battery 1857"] with [http://news.webshots.com/photo/2674157760103299705bRkabQ details] Webshots.com (Album:"1857 - India's first war of independence")
*[https://collection.nam.ac.uk/detail.php?acc=1956-08-6-17 An elephant pulling a field gun, 1858] Photograph by Felice Beato NAM. 1956-08-6-17. National Army Museum. Previously elsewhere identified as a Royal Artillery elephant battery at Lucknow<ref>''Victoria's Wars'', page 26 by Ian Frederick William Beckett 1998 previously available online on Google Books, now unavailable online.</ref>
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=6eoFnaqQ0MQC&pg=PA26  Photograph of  a Royal Artillery elephant battery at Lucknow 1858]  ''Victoria's Wars'', page 26 by Ian Frederick William Beckett 1998 Google Books. The same [http://www.nam.ac.uk/online-collection/images/480/105000-105999/105876.jpg photograph] is also available at the National Army Museum with these [http://www.nam.ac.uk/online-collection/detail.php?q=searchType%3Dsimple%26simpleText%3Dindian%2520mutiny%26themeID%3D%26resultsDisplay%3Dlist%26page%3D6&pos=17&total=299&page=6&acc=1956-08-6-17 details]
*[https://repository.library.brown.edu/studio/item/bdr:234081/ Charcoal and watercolor drawing: "Indian elephant artillery battery, c. 1860"] by George Bryant Campion. Brown Digital Repository. Brown University Library.  
*[http://cgi.ebay.com/1858-ELEPHANT-BATTERY-MARCHING-SOLDIERS-WAR-OLD-PRINT-/360297297749?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item53e3647755  Drawing of "Elephant Battery on the March "] (scroll down for larger version) Ebay.com. Originally from ''The Illustrated London News'', Saturday, May 8, 1858
*[http://www.flickr.com/photos/13305961@N00/3907822106/in/photostream    Drawing of "Peshawur Mountain train in the line of March 1877"], showing guns loaded on the elephants' backs. flickr.com  
*[http://www.flickr.com/photos/13305961@N00/3907822106/in/photostream    Drawing of "Peshawur Mountain train in the line of March 1877"], showing guns loaded on the elephants' backs. flickr.com [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAKISTAN-Peshawar-Mountain-train-line-March-antique-print-1877-/270930093904  Another view] of the same image (scroll down for larger version) where it is stated to be from the  Illustrated London News, however a page could not be located. ebay.co.uk
*[https://www.britishbattles.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/16-Elephant-battery.jpg Drawing: Royal Artillery Elephant Battery: Battle of Charasiab] from [http://www.britishbattles.com/second-afghan-war/charasiab.htm   "The Battle of Charasiab"] 6th October 1879, [[2nd Afghan War]] (scroll down) Britishbattles.com
*[http://www.britishbattles.com/second-afghan-war/charasiab.htm Drawing of "An elephant battery advances through the mountains"]  from The Battle of Charasiab 6th October 1879, [[2nd Afghan War]] (scroll down) Britishbattles.com
*[http://www.harappa.com/hawkshaw/11.html Photograph of "Elephant Battery 12/9 R.A. in action - Morar Gwalior, 1881"] from Major Hawkshaw’s [http://www.harappa.com/hawkshaw/intro.html  India Album]  Harappa.com
*[http://www.harappa.com/hawkshaw/11.html Photograph of "Elephant Battery 12/9 R.A. in action - Morar Gwalior, 1881"] from Major Hawkshaw’s [http://www.harappa.com/hawkshaw/intro.html  India Album]  Harappa.com
*[http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924000918486#page/n65/mode/2up Drawing of a "Shaft Elephant of Heavy Field Battery Gun (from the Artillery Manual)"] , between pages lii and liii of the Introduction in ''A manual of the diseases of the elephant and of his management and uses'' by John Henry Steel 1885 Archive.org  
*[http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924000918486#page/n65/mode/2up Drawing of a "Shaft Elephant of Heavy Field Battery Gun (from the Artillery Manual)"] , between pages lii and liii of the Introduction in ''A manual of the diseases of the elephant and of his management and uses'' by John Henry Steel 1885 Archive.org  
*[http://www.cqout.com/show.asp?u=http%3A//www.old-print.com/mas_assets/full2/M1321885/M1321885445.jpg Drawings of an elephant battery at Tongo, Burma 1885] with guns loaded on the elephants’ backs. [http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=10168438 CQout.com]  Originally from ''The Graphic'' Saturday, October 24, 1885
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20130905003317/http://www.old-print.com/mas_assets/full2/M1321885/M1321885445.jpg Drawings of an elephant battery at Tongo, Burma 1885] with guns loaded on the elephants’ backs. [https://web.archive.org/web/20131116224320/http://www.old-print.com/cgi-bin/item/M1321885445/search/16%252DAntique%252DPrint%252Dof%252D1885%252DBurma%252DElephant%252DBattery%252DTongo%252DIndia%252DAnimals%252D old-print.com] (archived page) Originally from ''The Graphic'' Saturday, October 24, 1885
*[https://www.facebook.com/archive150/photos_stream#!/photo.php?fbid=582985135059902&set=pb.301806946511057.-2207520000.1368451730.&type=3&theater Photograph: c 1880s: Elephants pulling guns on GT Road, Punjab] Archive150 on Facebook
*[http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00routesdata/1800_1899/britishrule/troops/elephants1880s.jpg Photograph of "The Elephant Battery, Artillery Lines, Peshawar"  c.1880's] from [http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00routesdata/1800_1899/britishrule/troops/troops.html this page] of Prof Fran Pritchett’s Indian Routes website
*[http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00routesdata/1800_1899/britishrule/troops/elephants1880s.jpg Photograph of "The Elephant Battery, Artillery Lines, Peshawar"  c.1880's] from [http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00routesdata/1800_1899/britishrule/troops/troops.html this page] of Prof Fran Pritchett’s Indian Routes website
*[http://cgi.ebay.com/Military-India-Elephants-Heavy-Field-Battery-1892-print-/300421854059?pt=Art_Prints&hash=item45f289b36b Drawing of "The Elephants of the Heavy Field Battery 1892"] (scroll down for enlarged version) Ebay.com. Originally from ''The Graphic'' 1892
*[http://loc.gov/pictures/resource/cph.3b25942/ Photograph of "Elephant battery of heavy artillery along the Khyber Pass at Campbellpur, 1895"] with [http://lccn.loc.gov/2004707363  details] Library of Congress
*[http://loc.gov/pictures/resource/cph.3b25942/ Photograph of "Elephant battery of heavy artillery along the Khyber Pass at Campbellpur, 1895"] with [http://lccn.loc.gov/2004707363  details] Library of Congress
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=6QXYfAi0FUsC&pg=PA18 Photograph of an elephant battery during the Pathan Revolt 1897], with guns loaded on the elephant backs. ''The British Army on Campaign 4 1882-1902'', page 18 by Michael Barthorp 1988 Google Books
*[http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/16854/lot/339 Photograph Elephant Battery Tirah Campaign 1897] bonhams.com. Click on the small picture to enlarge. From an album of views of the Tirah Campaign.  
*[http://indiasfirstwarofindependance1857.blogspot.com/2010/09/elephant-heavy-field-battery-at-mhow.html Photograph of an elephant heavy field battery at Mhow,1897] Indiasfirstwarofindependance1857.blogspot.com
*[http://www.search.staffspasttrack.org.uk/Details.aspx?&ResourceID=6145 Photograph of "Elephant Battery on Parade, Jhansi, India c 1899"] Staffordshire Past-Track
*[http://www.search.staffspasttrack.org.uk/engine/resource/default.asp?resource=6145 Photograph of "Elephant Battery on Parade, Jhansi, India c 1899"] Staffordshire Past-Track
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20150925230931/http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/rights-managed/HU052533/elephant-battery Photograph of  "Elephant Battery Gwalior c 1935"] Heavy artillery is transported to a hill station by a team of Indian elephants. Corbis Images, now an archived webpage, Gwalior was a [[Princely states|Princely State]]
*[http://www.corbisimages.com/Enlargement/HU052533.html Photograph of  "Elephant Battery Gwalior c 1935"] Heavy artillery is transported to a hill station by a team of Indian elephants. Corbis Images
* An elephant battery: [http://ark.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt158026wp  Photograph 1] and  [http://ark.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt2n39r2zq  photograph 2]  from [http://content.cdlib.org/search?facet=type-tab&relation=calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu&style=cui&keyword=Military+elephants+india&x=35&y=12 a group of photographs, University of California]. Identified as a British Heavy Battery of around 1895, refer [[Artillery elephants#External links|External links]] below.
* An elephant battery: [http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Fullscreen.ics?ark=ark:/13030/kt2n39r2zq/z1&order=2&brand=calisphere Photograph 1] and  [http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Fullscreen.ics?ark=ark:/13030/kt6199r6rv/z1&order=2&brand=calisphere photograph 2]  from [http://content.cdlib.org/search?facet=type-tab&relation=calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu&style=cui&keyword=Military+elephants+india&x=35&y=12 a group of photographs, University of California]. Identified as a British Heavy Battery of around 1895, refer [[Artillery elephants#External links|External links]] below.
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20200825055742if_/https://www.abebooks.com/Royal-Artillery-Eastern-Division-Campbellpore-Circa/12032399242/bd#&gid=1&pid=1 Photograph: Royal Artillery, No 12 Eastern Division at Campbellpore, Circa 1895, Showing the Heavy Guns Pulled By Pairs of Elephants], archived webpage.
*Victorian Wars Forum [http://www.victorianwars.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=7023#p31219 post] with a number of images of Army elephants
*[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:40_Pounder_RML_-_Elephant_battery,_1900.jpg 40 Pounder Rifled Muzzle Loading (RML) gun of a Royal Artillery elephant battery, India]. From the ''Navy and Army Illustrated'', published 1900. wikimedia.org
*[https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-british-indian-army-royal-artillery-elephant-unit-about-1905-88275985.html British Indian Army: Royal Artillery elephant unit about 1905] and [https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-british-indian-army-members-of-a-royal-artillery-elephant-battery-88275983.html British Indian Army: Members of a Royal Artillery elephant battery about 1905] alamy.com


==Historical books online==
==Historical books online==
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*[http://books.google.com/books?id=HLOXvhmYeNIC&pg=RA4-PA404 "Elephant"]  ''Aide-mémoire to the military sciences: Framed from contributions of officers of the different services, Volume 1'', page 404 Edited by a Committee of the Corps of Royal Engineers 1853 Google Books
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=HLOXvhmYeNIC&pg=RA4-PA404 "Elephant"]  ''Aide-mémoire to the military sciences: Framed from contributions of officers of the different services, Volume 1'', page 404 Edited by a Committee of the Corps of Royal Engineers 1853 Google Books
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=G8APAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA392#v=onepage&q=%22elephant%20battery%22&f=false  "Elephant Battery"] ''The Musical World'', Volumes 19-20 1858, page 392  originally appeared in the ''Illustrated London News''. Google Books
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=G8APAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA392#v=onepage&q=%22elephant%20battery%22&f=false  "Elephant Battery"] ''The Musical World'', Volumes 19-20 1858, page 392  originally appeared in the ''Illustrated London News''. Google Books
*An account of how a reluctant  elephant is made to swim across a river: [http://books.google.com.au/books?id=fJMtAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA452 page 452] ''Camp and Cantonment‬: ‪A Journal of Life in India in 1857-1859 to which is added A Short Account of the Pursuit of the Rebels in Central India by Majot Paget, RHA'' by Mrs Leopold Paget  1865 Google Books
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=Vvlt8tdRrf0C&pg=PA9 An elephant tale, 1858] ''Round-about Rambles in Lands of Fact and Fancy by Frank Richard Stockton'', page 9, first published 1872 Google Books
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=Vvlt8tdRrf0C&pg=PA9 An elephant tale, 1858] ''Round-about Rambles in Lands of Fact and Fancy by Frank Richard Stockton'', page 9, first published 1872 Google Books
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=rncDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA191 "Notes on elephant carriage and steel mountain batteries employed in Abyssinia"],  page 191 an Appendix to "The Abyssinian Expedition" pages 167-202 ''Minutes of proceedings of the Royal artillery institution, Volume 6'' 1870 Google Books
*[http://books.google.com/books?id=rncDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA191 "Notes on elephant carriage and steel mountain batteries employed in Abyssinia"],  page 191 an Appendix to "The Abyssinian Expedition" pages 167-202 ''Minutes of proceedings of the Royal artillery institution, Volume 6'' 1870 Google Books
*"Notes on Elephants and their Transport by Railway" by Capt H Wilberforce Clarke RE from ''Professional Papers on Indian Engineering Second Series Volume 8'' 1879 [http://www.archive.org/stream/professionalpap02brangoog#page/n321/mode/1up  "Notes on Elephants"], page 243 [http://www.archive.org/stream/professionalpap02brangoog#page/n369/mode/1up "Report on the Transportation of Elephants by Railway"], page 289
*"Notes on Elephants and their Transport by Railway" by Capt H Wilberforce Clarke RE from ''Professional Papers on Indian Engineering Second Series Volume 8'' 1879 [http://www.archive.org/stream/professionalpap02brangoog#page/n321/mode/1up  "Notes on Elephants"], page 243 [http://www.archive.org/stream/professionalpap02brangoog#page/n369/mode/1up "Report on the Transportation of Elephants by Railway"], page 289
*[http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924000918486#page/n37/mode/2up "The Elephant as used in modern Armies"], page xxvi (Introduction) ''A manual of the diseases of the elephant and of his management and uses'' by John Henry Steel 1885 Archive.org
*[http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924000918486#page/n37/mode/2up "The Elephant as used in modern Armies"], page xxvi (Introduction) ''A manual of the diseases of the elephant and of his management and uses'' by John Henry Steel 1885 Archive.org
*This [http://books.google.com/books?id=W0x74TZB3eoC&lpg=PA200&dq=elephant%20battery&pg=PA200 link] advises an elephant battery at Jhansi was abolished c 1903, and the elephants sold.    ''Chota Nagpur, a little-known province of the empire'', page 200 by Francis Bradley Bradley-Birt, first published 1903, Google Books.
*This [https://archive.org/details/ChotaNagpur/page/n327/mode/1up?q=elephant page] advises an elephant battery at Jhansi was abolished c 1903, and the elephants sold.    ''Chota Nagpur, a little-known province of the empire'', page 251 by Francis Bradley Bradley-Birt, 2nd edition 1910, first published 1903. Archive.org.
*An elephant story ''Toomai of the Elephants'' from ''The Jungle Book '' may be read online from the page [[Rudyard Kipling#Historical books online|Rudyard Kipling]]
*[https://archive.org/stream/cu31924000361455#page/n199/mode/2up  "Chapter XII Elephants"] page 157 ''Army Veterinary Service in War'' by Major-General Sir John Moore AVS 1921 Archive.org
*An elephant story ''Toomai of the Elephants'' from ''The Jungle Book '' may be read online from the page [[Rudyard Kipling#Historical books online|Rudyard Kipling]]. The story is set at the conclusion of the annual hunt for wild elephants,  for the Government of India.


==External links==
==External links==
* Victorian Wars Forum [http://www.victorianwars.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=6181#p24598 thread] by Frogsmile which dates  and identifies two photographs (refer [[Artillery elephants#Photographs and drawings|above]]) and  provides much additional information about elephant batteries.
*Victorian Wars Forum thread<ref>Frogsmile. [https://web.archive.org/web/20131114125457/http://www.victorianwars.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=6181 Identify details: photos of artillery elephants, India]  ''Victorian Wars Forum'' 29 October 2011, now archived. </ref> by Frogsmile which dates  and identifies two photographs (refer [[Artillery elephants#Photographs and drawings|above]]) and  provides much additional information about elephant batteries.
*[http://gallimafry.blogspot.com.au/2011/11/second-anglo-burmese-war-elephant.html "Britain’s Fighting Elephants"] by H J Chuter ''Everybody’s Magazine'' August 1900 together with additional images.  gallimafry.blogspot.com.
*[http://www.kipling.org.uk/rg_majservants_heavies.htm "Heavy Batteries in India"] by Lt-Col Roger Ayers www.kipling.org.uk
*[http://www.kipling.org.uk/rg_majservants_heavies.htm "Heavy Batteries in India"] by Lt-Col Roger Ayers www.kipling.org.uk
*[http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=267290 Thread] about guns carried on elephants' backs. theminiaturespage.com
*[http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=267290 Thread] about guns carried on elephants' backs. theminiaturespage.com
*[http://cbi-theater.home.comcast.net/~cbi-theater/elephants/elephants.html Elephants at war, in Burma, World War 2] from "China - Burma - India: Remembering the Forgotten Theater of World War II"
*[http://madrasmusings.com/Vol%2021%20No%206/otherstories.html#story1 Bringing up elephants: 1812 book in the Saraswati Mahal Library] by Pradeep Chakravarthy ''Madras Musings''  Vol. XXI No. 6, July 1-15, 2011
*[http://madrasmusings.com/Vol%2021%20No%206/otherstories.html#story1 Bringing up elephants: 1812 book in the Saraswati Mahal Library] by Pradeep Chakravarthy ''Madras Musings''  Vol. XXI No. 6, July 1-15, 2011
*[http://madrasmusings.com/Vol%2022%20No%204/elephants-over-the-centuries.html Elephants over the centuries] by A. Raman ''Madras Musings''  Vol. XXII No. 4, June 1-15, 2012
*[http://madrasmusings.com/Vol%2022%20No%204/elephants-over-the-centuries.html Elephants over the centuries] by A. Raman ''Madras Musings''  Vol. XXII No. 4, June 1-15, 2012
*Catalogue entry Liddell Hart Military Archives King’s College London [https://kingscollections.org/catalogues/lhcma/collection/b/bl65-001?searchterms=Block%2C+Col+Arthur+Hugh+1859-1931 Block, Col Arthur Hugh (1859-1931)] Four copy photographs of 9 Western Div (Heavy Bde) and 72 Company (Heavy Bde), Royal Garrison Artillery, in India, showing elephant battery manoeuvres and parade, 1898-1900. Reference code GB0099 KCLMA Block. kingscollections.org. Note the photographs are not available online.
*Newspaper article [http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/74479020 "Elephant Artillery. The Most Curious Corps In The British Army"].''The Colac Herald Friday 25 June 1915'' trove.nla.gov.au 
*[http://www.cbi-theater.com/elephants/elephants.html "Elephants at war"], by Philip Wynter  ''Life'' April 10, 1944. In Burma, World War 2 from [http://www.cbi-theater.com/menu/cbi_home.html "China - Burma - India: Remembering the Forgotten Theater of World War II"]
*[https://www.degruyter.com/view/journals/mgzs/77/1/article-p37.xml "War Elephants and Early Tanks: A Transepochal Comparison of Ancient and Modern Warfare"] by Alaric Searle. ''Militärgeschichtliche Zeitschrift''  Volume 77: Issue 1 2018. degruyter.com


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  • Commissariat, or Army Supply. This Department was responsible for elephants.

Photographs and drawings

Historical books online

  • This extract includes wording from a 1784 book[2] and refers to the skill of the elephants in the Army of Hyder Ali. "It can hardly be imagined how useful these elephants are, nor with what skill and intelligence they do their work". "Baggage of the Indian Army" Calcutta Review, Volume 11 January-June 1849, page 445
  • This extract is about the pushing power of an elephant The Calcutta Review, Volume 8, July-December 1847 page 222
  • "Elephant" Aide-mémoire to the military sciences: Framed from contributions of officers of the different services, Volume 1, page 404 Edited by a Committee of the Corps of Royal Engineers 1853 Google Books
  • "Elephant Battery" The Musical World, Volumes 19-20 1858, page 392 originally appeared in the Illustrated London News. Google Books
  • An account of how a reluctant elephant is made to swim across a river: page 452 Camp and Cantonment‬: ‪A Journal of Life in India in 1857-1859 to which is added A Short Account of the Pursuit of the Rebels in Central India by Majot Paget, RHA by Mrs Leopold Paget 1865 Google Books
  • An elephant tale, 1858 Round-about Rambles in Lands of Fact and Fancy by Frank Richard Stockton, page 9, first published 1872 Google Books
  • "Notes on elephant carriage and steel mountain batteries employed in Abyssinia", page 191 an Appendix to "The Abyssinian Expedition" pages 167-202 Minutes of proceedings of the Royal artillery institution, Volume 6 1870 Google Books
  • "Notes on Elephants and their Transport by Railway" by Capt H Wilberforce Clarke RE from Professional Papers on Indian Engineering Second Series Volume 8 1879 "Notes on Elephants", page 243 "Report on the Transportation of Elephants by Railway", page 289
  • "The Elephant as used in modern Armies", page xxvi (Introduction) A manual of the diseases of the elephant and of his management and uses by John Henry Steel 1885 Archive.org
  • This page advises an elephant battery at Jhansi was abolished c 1903, and the elephants sold. Chota Nagpur, a little-known province of the empire, page 251 by Francis Bradley Bradley-Birt, 2nd edition 1910, first published 1903. Archive.org.
  • "Chapter XII Elephants" page 157 Army Veterinary Service in War by Major-General Sir John Moore AVS 1921 Archive.org
  • An elephant story Toomai of the Elephants from The Jungle Book may be read online from the page Rudyard Kipling. The story is set at the conclusion of the annual hunt for wild elephants, for the Government of India.

External links

References

  1. Victoria's Wars, page 26 by Ian Frederick William Beckett 1998 previously available online on Google Books, now unavailable online.
  2. The History of Ayder Ali Khan, Nabob-Bahader: or, New Memoirs Concerning the East Indies. Volume 1, page 239 by M. M. D. L. T. 1784 Google Books
  3. Frogsmile. Identify details: photos of artillery elephants, India Victorian Wars Forum 29 October 2011, now archived.