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A large part of the Khyber ropeway, which , since its erection in 1919 has handled a maximum of 200 tons of goods per day, is to be dismantled owing to difficulties with the Afghans. The total length of the ropeway is 19 miles".<ref>‪[https://archive.org/stream/meccano-magazine-1925-08/mm192508#page/n16/mode/1up Page 391 ''The Meccano Magazine August 1925'' Archive.org]</ref></blockquote>
A large part of the Khyber ropeway, which , since its erection in 1919 has handled a maximum of 200 tons of goods per day, is to be dismantled owing to difficulties with the Afghans. The total length of the ropeway is 19 miles".<ref>‪[https://archive.org/stream/meccano-magazine-1925-08/mm192508#page/n16/mode/1up Page 391 ''The Meccano Magazine August 1925'' Archive.org]</ref></blockquote>
   
   
The ropeway system appears to have been run by the Khyber Ropeway Company, part of the Royal Army Service Corps  
The ropeway system was run by the Khyber Ropeway Company, part of the [[Royal Army Service Corps]].<ref>caroleah [http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=201715 “khyber ropeway company army service corps”] Great War Forum, 30 October 2013. Retrieved 16 August 2014</ref> It appears to have been part of Mechanical Transport.<ref>[https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/32913/supplement/1814  "A report on the operations in Waziristan for the period 1st January, 1922 to the 20th April, 1923"], page 1814 ''London Gazette Supplement'' 27 February 1924</ref>


Lord Montagu of Beaulieu in a House of Lords debate 31 March 1921 said
Lord Montagu of Beaulieu in a House of Lords debate 31 March 1921 said
<blockquote>"Two years ago I was delighted to find that the Government of India carried out a recommendation which I made that there should be a wire ropeway in the Khyber Pass. This has been completed, and has lately taken over twenty tons of stores a day to the summit "<ref>[http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1921/may/31/defence-of-north-west-frontier House of Lords Debate 31May 1921 Defence of North-West Frontier] Hansard</ref></blockquote>
<blockquote>"Two years ago I was delighted to find that the Government of India carried out a recommendation which I made that there should be a wire ropeway in the Khyber Pass. This has been completed, and has lately taken over twenty tons of stores a day to the summit "<ref>[http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lords/1921/may/31/defence-of-north-west-frontier House of Lords Debate 31May 1921 Defence of North-West Frontier] Hansard</ref></blockquote>
H M Glover of the IFS advised that the Khyber ropeway was erected on the same plan as  a ropeway at Patriata of the heavy endless cable type,  erected in 1910 for bringing firewood to the troops at Murree, as a consequence of General Sir Gerald Kitson’s aquaintance with the Patriata ropeway in 1912. After the Khyber ropeway was dismantled, part was re-erected by the Forest Department in three sections of total length 8 miles for bringing firewood to Abbottabad. <ref>[http://pecongress.org.pk/images/upload/books/P17-PAPER130.pdf Paper No 130 "Punjab Building Timbers and Methods of Extraction"] by H M Glover IFS page 123 ''Proceedings of the Punjab Engineering Congress, Lahore, Volume 17, 1929''. Article is pages 119-126b (total 18 pages pdf, including photographs of the Patriata ropeway.) pecongress.org.pk. </ref>


The King’s College London , Liddell Hart Centre for Military Archives [http://www.kcl.ac.uk/lhcma/cats  website] has a [http://www.kcl.ac.uk/lhcma/cats/montagu/do70-07.shtml catalogue reference]
The King’s College London , Liddell Hart Centre for Military Archives [http://www.kcl.ac.uk/lhcma/cats  website] has a [http://www.kcl.ac.uk/lhcma/cats/montagu/do70-07.shtml catalogue reference]
"Douglas-Scott-Montagu 7/42 1918 Apr 10 Memoranda, Articles and Reports: Report by Montagu and Capt S Limby on the use of wire ropeways on the North West Frontier and hill stations. Ref S80 QMG. Printed 4 pp and map of proposed road and ropeway Makeland District (2 copies)"
"Douglas-Scott-Montagu 7/42 1918 Apr 10 Memoranda, Articles and Reports: Report by Montagu and Capt S Limby on the use of wire ropeways on the North West Frontier and hill stations. Ref S80 QMG. Printed 4 pp and map of proposed road and ropeway Makeland District (2 copies)"


The King’s College London  , Liddell Hart Centre for Military Archives [http://www.kcl.ac.uk/lhcma/cats  website] has a [http://www.kcl.ac.uk/lhcma/cats/liddell/li1503e.htm catalogue reference] " Liddell: 15/3/167 1910-1936 :Journal articles relating to British defence in India, including …..'The Khyber Ropeway Company' by Lt Col Richard Parry Crawley in ''Royal Army Service Corps Quarterly'' [1931]
The King’s College London  , Liddell Hart Centre for Military Archives [http://www.kcl.ac.uk/lhcma/cats  website] has a [http://www.kcl.ac.uk/lhcma/cats/liddell/li1503e.htm catalogue reference] " Liddell: 15/3/167 1910-1936 :Journal articles relating to British defence in India, including …..'The Khyber Ropeway Company' by Lt Col Richard Parry Crawley in ''Royal Army Service Corps Quarterly'' [1931]".  However, it is believed the reference year does not apply to the journal article, for which the correct reference is ''RASC Quarterly'' - Volume 12 - 1924 (April, pages 137- c 156)<ref>[http://www.rlcarchive.org/OnLineBmk.aspx?bk=R0143 Royal Logistic Corps Digital Library], a pay website</ref>
 
==Also see==
*[[Khyber Railway]]


==Photographs and postcards==
==External links==
===Photographs and postcards===
*Two photograph from the National Army Museum collection
*Two photograph from the National Army Museum collection
** [http://www.nam.ac.uk/online-collection/detail.php?acc=1963-09-633-4 The ropeway transit system, Landi Kotal, 1919] NAM. 1963-09-633-4
** [http://www.nam.ac.uk/online-collection/detail.php?acc=1963-09-633-4 The ropeway transit system, Landi Kotal, 1919] NAM. 1963-09-633-4
**[http://www.nam.ac.uk/online-collection/detail.php?acc=1963-09-633-12 The ropeway transit system at Landi Kotal, c 1919] Photograph by Randolph Bezzant Holmes. NAM. 1963-09-633-12  
**[http://www.nam.ac.uk/online-collection/detail.php?acc=1963-09-633-12 The ropeway transit system at Landi Kotal, c 1919] Photograph by Randolph Bezzant Holmes. NAM. 1963-09-633-12
*[http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:seuut3ElogMJ:www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INDIA-NW-FRONTIER-KHYBER-PASS-WATER-WORKS-HIGHEST-POLE-ROPEWAY-PHOTO-CARD-/330717065398+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au Postcard: Khyber Water Works Showing the Highest Pole of Ropeway] (Scroll down the page for larger version) ebay Picture Postcards Limited
*[http://www.andrewgrantham.co.uk/afghanistan/khyber-ropeway-at-ali-masjid/ Postcard: Alimusjid Fort with Ropeway, Khyber Pass]. This is very similar to the previous photograph which may have been incorrectly labelled. The location of [[Ali Masjid Fort|Ali Masjid]] appears correct. andrewgrantham.co.uk (retrieved 29 May 2014)
===Other===
*[http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/Digitised/Article/straitstimes19250611-1.2.93.aspx "Khyber Ropeway"]. “The impending sale of the Jamrud- Kotal section of the Khyber Ropeway… The ropeway is divided into six sections, five of which are now for disposal”. ''The Straits Times'', 11 June 1925, Page 11. Newspapers-Singapore Government
===Historical books online===
*[https://archive.org/stream/in.ernet.dli.2015.284463/2015.284463.The-Royal#page/n541/mode/2up ''The Royal Army Service Corps: A History of Transport and Supply in the British Army, Volume II'']  by Colonel R H Beadon 1931, page 480. Archive.org, Digital Library of India Collection.  From a chapter on India, with details about the Khyber Ropeway from page 480. It was built in six sections with stations at Jamrud, (on the N. W. railway), Mile 3 (Bagiari), Shahgai, Ali Masjid, Zintara Landi Kotal and Landi Khana.


== References ==
== References ==

Latest revision as of 00:45, 1 August 2017

Khyber Ropeway Company 1919 to c 1925

In 1925 the following was written:

"Ropeway to be Dismantled
A large part of the Khyber ropeway, which , since its erection in 1919 has handled a maximum of 200 tons of goods per day, is to be dismantled owing to difficulties with the Afghans. The total length of the ropeway is 19 miles".[1]

The ropeway system was run by the Khyber Ropeway Company, part of the Royal Army Service Corps.[2] It appears to have been part of Mechanical Transport.[3]

Lord Montagu of Beaulieu in a House of Lords debate 31 March 1921 said

"Two years ago I was delighted to find that the Government of India carried out a recommendation which I made that there should be a wire ropeway in the Khyber Pass. This has been completed, and has lately taken over twenty tons of stores a day to the summit "[4]

H M Glover of the IFS advised that the Khyber ropeway was erected on the same plan as a ropeway at Patriata of the heavy endless cable type, erected in 1910 for bringing firewood to the troops at Murree, as a consequence of General Sir Gerald Kitson’s aquaintance with the Patriata ropeway in 1912. After the Khyber ropeway was dismantled, part was re-erected by the Forest Department in three sections of total length 8 miles for bringing firewood to Abbottabad. [5]

The King’s College London , Liddell Hart Centre for Military Archives website has a catalogue reference "Douglas-Scott-Montagu 7/42 1918 Apr 10 Memoranda, Articles and Reports: Report by Montagu and Capt S Limby on the use of wire ropeways on the North West Frontier and hill stations. Ref S80 QMG. Printed 4 pp and map of proposed road and ropeway Makeland District (2 copies)"

The King’s College London , Liddell Hart Centre for Military Archives website has a catalogue reference " Liddell: 15/3/167 1910-1936 :Journal articles relating to British defence in India, including …..'The Khyber Ropeway Company' by Lt Col Richard Parry Crawley in Royal Army Service Corps Quarterly [1931]". However, it is believed the reference year does not apply to the journal article, for which the correct reference is RASC Quarterly - Volume 12 - 1924 (April, pages 137- c 156)[6]

Also see

External links

Photographs and postcards

Other

  • "Khyber Ropeway". “The impending sale of the Jamrud- Kotal section of the Khyber Ropeway… The ropeway is divided into six sections, five of which are now for disposal”. The Straits Times, 11 June 1925, Page 11. Newspapers-Singapore Government

Historical books online

References

  1. Page 391 The Meccano Magazine August 1925 Archive.org
  2. caroleah “khyber ropeway company army service corps” Great War Forum, 30 October 2013. Retrieved 16 August 2014
  3. "A report on the operations in Waziristan for the period 1st January, 1922 to the 20th April, 1923", page 1814 London Gazette Supplement 27 February 1924
  4. House of Lords Debate 31May 1921 Defence of North-West Frontier Hansard
  5. Paper No 130 "Punjab Building Timbers and Methods of Extraction" by H M Glover IFS page 123 Proceedings of the Punjab Engineering Congress, Lahore, Volume 17, 1929. Article is pages 119-126b (total 18 pages pdf, including photographs of the Patriata ropeway.) pecongress.org.pk.
  6. Royal Logistic Corps Digital Library, a pay website