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==FIBIS resources==
==FIBIS resources==
*[https://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_browse_sources.php?mode=browse_dataset&id=479&s_id=728 Officers of the Bombay Marine - 1802]
* FIBIS database: [http://fibis.ourarchives.online/bin/aps_browse_sources.php?mode=list_sources&source_class=222 Bombay Marine - Indian Navy] multiple databases.
*[https://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_browse_sources.php?mode=browse_dataset&id=480&s_id=728 Officers of the Bombay Marine - 1830]
* FIBIS database: [http://fibis.ourarchives.online/bin/aps_browse_sources.php?mode=browse_components&id=451&s_id=137 Indian Navy Family Pension Records] located in Military records/Pensions and Funds, from the British Library records :Indian Navy Fund: Family Register, compiled c 1855 with additions  [https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/01f7e019-cefb-4245-a918-3f066540818c IOR/L/AG/23/18/2] and Indian Navy Fund: Family Register, compiled Jun 1864 with additions [https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/f1ea8123-e489-4b4b-ab4b-5da660929054 IOR/L/AG/23/18/3].
*[https://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_browse_sources.php?mode=browse_dataset&id=515&s_id=728 Officers of the Indian Navy 1858-1863]
:'''These records are also available, with images, on the [http://www.awin1.com/awclick.php?mid=2114&id=201071 findmypast] website.'''
*[https://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_browse_sources.php?mode=browse_components&id=451&s_id=137 India Navy Pension Fund & Family Details], from the British Library records :Indian Navy Fund: Family Register, compiled c 1855 with additions  [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlag_3-3&cid=1-1-8-2#1-1-8-2 IOR/L/AG/23/18/2] and Indian Navy Fund: Family Register, compiled Jun 1864 with additions [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlag_3-3&cid=1-1-8-3#1-1-8-3 IOR/L/AG/23/18/3].  
*FIBIS database: [https://fibis.ourarchives.online/bin/aps_browse_sources.php?mode=browse_components&id=1257&s_id=378 WW1 British Officers of the Indian Army and Royal Marine]. Casualty lists of Officers and Civil Servants in the Indian Army and Royal Marine who died in the Great War (1914-1920).


'''These records are also available, with images, on the [http://www.awin1.com/awclick.php?mid=2114&id=201071 findmypast] website.'''
==Records==
==Records==
===The Navy List===
For at least some periods, ''The Navy List'', mostly about the Royal Navy, also included details about officers in the Royal Indian Marines etc. For editions available online, see [[Military periodicals online#Navy List|Military periodicals online - Navy List]].
===India Office records at the British Library===
===India Office records at the British Library===
FIBIS Chairman Peter Bailey wrote the following about officers in the [[Second World War]], but his advice is generally applicable:
FIBIS Chairman Peter Bailey wrote the following about officers in the [[Second World War]], but his advice is generally applicable:
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"Generally speaking the Personal Files of those who served as officers in the RIN during the Second World War, are to be found in the India Office Records at the British Library under Catalogue Number [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlmil_8-1&cid=1-4-2#1-4-2 L/MIL/16/10 et sequ]. However, since there is some chance that the persons concerned may still be alive, you may have to show proof that you are the person concerned or that they are no longer with us and that you are directly related to them. Some records of service for Seamen as well as officers may be available in [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlmil_8-1&cid=1-4-1#1-4-1 L/MIL/16/1-9] which cover the period c1840-1947 and an index is available on the open shelves.
"Generally speaking the Personal Files of those who served as officers in the RIN during the Second World War, are to be found in the India Office Records at the British Library under Catalogue Number [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlmil_8-1&cid=1-4-2#1-4-2 L/MIL/16/10 et sequ]. However, since there is some chance that the persons concerned may still be alive, you may have to show proof that you are the person concerned or that they are no longer with us and that you are directly related to them. Some records of service for Seamen as well as officers may be available in [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlmil_8-1&cid=1-4-1#1-4-1 L/MIL/16/1-9] which cover the period c1840-1947 and an index is available on the open shelves.


Records of leave and duty pay from 1886-1950 are to be found in [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlag_1&cid=1-20-13#1-20-13 L/AG/20/13] and leave accounts and records of the payment of gratuities for officers released in the UK from 1945-47 may be found in [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlag_1&cid=1-20-13-37#1-20-13-37 L/AG/20/13/37-45]. Finally, records of service pensions paid to retired officers in the UK from 1886-1968 are in [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlag_2&cid=1-1-21#1-1-21 L/AG/21/21] or [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlag_2&cid=1-1-11#1-1-11 L/AG/21/11]"<ref>British Raj List [https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/india-british-raj.rootsweb.com/thread/987101/ post] dated 19 October 2012. Retrieved 15 September 2020.</ref>
Records of leave and duty pay from 1886-1950 are to be found in [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlag_1&cid=1-20-13#1-20-13 L/AG/20/13] and leave accounts and records of the payment of gratuities for officers released in the UK from 1945-47 may be found in [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlag_1&cid=1-20-13-37#1-20-13-37 L/AG/20/13/37-45]. Finally, records of service pensions paid to retired officers in the UK from 1886-1968 are in [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlag_2&cid=1-1-21#1-1-21 L/AG/21/21] or [http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlag_2&cid=1-1-11#1-1-11 L/AG/21/11]"<ref>British Raj List [https://web.archive.org/web/20200507005026/https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/india-british-raj.rootsweb.com/thread/987101/ post] dated 19 October 2012, archived.</ref>


==== Military Department Records====
==== Military Department Records====
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** Royal Indian Marine and Royal Indian Navy: appointment of officers '''IOR/L/MIL/7/15381-15502''' 1878-1942
** Royal Indian Marine and Royal Indian Navy: appointment of officers '''IOR/L/MIL/7/15381-15502''' 1878-1942
* Military Department Library '''IOR/L/MIL/17/9''' 1870-1948. Includes publications on the Bombay/Indian Marine/Navy such as Navy Lists; Orders; Circulars; Notifications; Instructions; Regulations; Troop and Transport Service and Administrative miscellanea.
* Military Department Library '''IOR/L/MIL/17/9''' 1870-1948. Includes publications on the Bombay/Indian Marine/Navy such as Navy Lists; Orders; Circulars; Notifications; Instructions; Regulations; Troop and Transport Service and Administrative miscellanea.
**Bombay/Indian Marine/Navy List ‎ (1870-1949) '''IOR/L/MIL/17/9/1-291'''. The frequency varies: half-yearly 1870-77, monthly 1878-Jan 1882, quarterly Apr 1882-Apr 1923, half-yearly Oct 1923-Jul 1925, and quarterly from 1926.


==== Marine Department Records ====
==== Marine Department Records ====


*[http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlmar_5&cid=1-2#1-2 Marine Miscellaneous Records] '''IOR/L/MAR/C''' 1600-1879. These records include “personnel records of the Company's maritime service (at all levels of employment, but including particularly the appointment and services of commanders and mates of East Indiamen), the [[Bombay Marine]], the [[Indian Navy]], and the [[Bengal Pilot Service]]”. <ref>Martin Moir, A General Guide to the India office Records 1996</ref>
*[http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlmar_5&cid=1-2#1-2 Marine Miscellaneous Records] '''IOR/L/MAR/C''' 1600-1879. These records include “personnel records of the Company's maritime service (at all levels of employment, but including particularly the appointment and services of commanders and mates of East Indiamen), the [[Bombay Marine]], the [[Indian Navy]], and the [[Bengal Pilot Service]]”. <ref>Martin Moir, A General Guide to the India office Records 1996</ref>
 
=====Findmypast records=====
:Bombay Marine and Pilot Service Appointments 1822-1832, IOR/L/MAR/C/688 and Volunteers (cadets) for the Indian Navy, 1838-1859  IOR/L/MAR/C/710-714, are available, with images, on the [http://www.awin1.com/awclick.php?mid=2114&id=201071 findmypast] website, in The British in India Collection, believed to be located in British India Office Births & Baptisms.
*Bombay Marine and Pilot Service Appointments 1822-1832, IOR/L/MAR/C/688 and Volunteers (cadets) for the Indian Navy, 1838-1859  IOR/L/MAR/C/710-714, are available, with images, on the [http://www.awin1.com/awclick.php?mid=2114&id=201071 findmypast] website, in The British in India Collection, believed to be located in British India Office Births & Baptisms.
=====FamilySearch digitised microfilms=====
*[[IOR Marine records on LDS films]] include microfilms from the series IOR/L/MAR/C which contain wording "Bombay Marine" and "Indian Navy" in the film description.
:See [[FamilySearch Centres]] for access details. Most appear to be available both at FamilySearch Centres and FamilySearch Affiliate Libraries.


===The National Archives, Kew===
===The National Archives, Kew===
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*[https://web.archive.org/web/20190518184959/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/11382850/Commander-Arthur-King-obituary.html  Commander Arthur King - obituary [1917-2014<nowiki>]</nowiki>] 01 February  2015 ''The Telegraph'', archived page. He was in the Royal Indian Navy 1936-c 1947. He is probably  "Commander King, who commanded HMIS Talwar" whose actions led to/aggravated the 1946 Mutiny, mentioned in Reginald Massey's article above.
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20190518184959/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/11382850/Commander-Arthur-King-obituary.html  Commander Arthur King - obituary [1917-2014<nowiki>]</nowiki>] 01 February  2015 ''The Telegraph'', archived page. He was in the Royal Indian Navy 1936-c 1947. He is probably  "Commander King, who commanded HMIS Talwar" whose actions led to/aggravated the 1946 Mutiny, mentioned in Reginald Massey's article above.
*[http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/history-and-culture/a-peek-into-indias-enduring-maritime-history/article4736411.ece?ref=slideshow#im-image-0 Slideshow: A peek into India's enduring maritime history] Photographs by K.K. Mustafah. The Southern Naval Command’s Maritime Museum, located at Fort Kochi, hosts a variety of exhibits tracing the origin and evolution of the Indian Navy.  ''The Hindu'' May 21, 2013
*[http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/history-and-culture/a-peek-into-indias-enduring-maritime-history/article4736411.ece?ref=slideshow#im-image-0 Slideshow: A peek into India's enduring maritime history] Photographs by K.K. Mustafah. The Southern Naval Command’s Maritime Museum, located at Fort Kochi, hosts a variety of exhibits tracing the origin and evolution of the Indian Navy.  ''The Hindu'' May 21, 2013
* "Old Conways & India – Part I: The Indian Navies v10" by Alfie Windsor,  2017. Accounts by Old Conways,  old boys  from the British training school ship HMS Conway. Copy and paste the link <nowiki>http://www.hmsconway.org/sea_career RIN.pdf</nowiki>
*[http://www.hmsconway.org/sea_career%20RIN.pdf "Old Conways & India – Part I: The Indian Navies v10"] by Alfie Windsor,  2017. Accounts by Old Conways,  old boys  from the British training school ship HMS Conway. hmsconway.org
*[https://www.greatwarforum.org Great War Forum] contains a category "Sailors, navies and the war at sea"
*[https://www.greatwarforum.org Great War Forum] contains a category "Sailors, navies and the war at sea"


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In 1830 the Bombay Marine was renamed the Indian Navy, based at Bombay. The Indian Navy, a combatant force, co-operated with the Royal Navy in policing Asian waters and also carried out regular marine surveys. In 1863 it was disbanded and replaced by two non-combatant marine services based in Bombay and Bengal respectively. In 1877 it was decided to combine the Bombay and Bengal Marines into a new combatant service entitled HM Indian Marine, with Western (Bombay) and Eastern (Calcutta) Divisions - HM Indian Marine was renamed the Royal Indian Marine in 1892 and the Royal Indian Navy in 1934. [1]

FIBIS resources

These records are also available, with images, on the findmypast website.

Records

The Navy List

For at least some periods, The Navy List, mostly about the Royal Navy, also included details about officers in the Royal Indian Marines etc. For editions available online, see Military periodicals online - Navy List.

India Office records at the British Library

FIBIS Chairman Peter Bailey wrote the following about officers in the Second World War, but his advice is generally applicable:

"Generally speaking the Personal Files of those who served as officers in the RIN during the Second World War, are to be found in the India Office Records at the British Library under Catalogue Number L/MIL/16/10 et sequ. However, since there is some chance that the persons concerned may still be alive, you may have to show proof that you are the person concerned or that they are no longer with us and that you are directly related to them. Some records of service for Seamen as well as officers may be available in L/MIL/16/1-9 which cover the period c1840-1947 and an index is available on the open shelves.

Records of leave and duty pay from 1886-1950 are to be found in L/AG/20/13 and leave accounts and records of the payment of gratuities for officers released in the UK from 1945-47 may be found in L/AG/20/13/37-45. Finally, records of service pensions paid to retired officers in the UK from 1886-1968 are in L/AG/21/21 or L/AG/21/11"[2]

Military Department Records

Search for the following catalogue entries in the British Library Archives and Manuscripts Search.

  • Royal Indian Marine and Royal Indian Navy IOR/L/MIL/16 c1840 - c1947.
  • Departmental Papers IOR/L/MIL/7
    • Naval cadetships IOR/L/MIL/7/1345-1348 1881-1904
    • Royal Indian Marine: confidential reports on officers and engineers IOR/L/MIL/7/2208-2215 1889-1919
    • Indian Marine: appointment of Assistant Engineers IOR/L/MIL/7/4105-4136 1879-1916
    • Director of Royal Indian Marine: appointment of etc IOR/L/MIL/7/11211-11235 1876-1943
    • Royal Indian Marine and Royal Indian Navy: appointment of officers IOR/L/MIL/7/15381-15502 1878-1942
  • Military Department Library IOR/L/MIL/17/9 1870-1948. Includes publications on the Bombay/Indian Marine/Navy such as Navy Lists; Orders; Circulars; Notifications; Instructions; Regulations; Troop and Transport Service and Administrative miscellanea.
    • Bombay/Indian Marine/Navy List ‎ (1870-1949) IOR/L/MIL/17/9/1-291. The frequency varies: half-yearly 1870-77, monthly 1878-Jan 1882, quarterly Apr 1882-Apr 1923, half-yearly Oct 1923-Jul 1925, and quarterly from 1926.

Marine Department Records

Findmypast records
  • Bombay Marine and Pilot Service Appointments 1822-1832, IOR/L/MAR/C/688 and Volunteers (cadets) for the Indian Navy, 1838-1859 IOR/L/MAR/C/710-714, are available, with images, on the findmypast website, in The British in India Collection, believed to be located in British India Office Births & Baptisms.
FamilySearch digitised microfilms
  • IOR Marine records on LDS films include microfilms from the series IOR/L/MAR/C which contain wording "Bombay Marine" and "Indian Navy" in the film description.
See FamilySearch Centres for access details. Most appear to be available both at FamilySearch Centres and FamilySearch Affiliate Libraries.

The National Archives, Kew

Marine Survey of India

The Marine Survey Department was established as a separate Department in 1874. Previously this work was carried out by naval officers.

Persian Gulf 1909–14

A clasp to the Naval General Service Medal (1915), "Persian Gulf 1909–14" was issued for operations against pirates, gun-runners and slavers. This clasp was awarded to an officer on RIMS Palindurus,[4] an indication of the type of operations during this period.

First World War

During the First World War ships of the Royal Indian Marine carried troops and other war stores from India to Egypt, Mesopotamia and East Africa. When mines were detected off the coasts of Bombay and Aden during the First World War, the Royal Indian Marine went into action with a fleet of minesweepers, patrol vessels and troop carriers. The Royal Indian Marine also played a leading role in landing troops in Mesopotamia and their small river craft did very useful work on the Euphrates and Tigris rivers.[5]

Many of the duties in Mesopotamia were subsequently transferred to the Inland Water Transport, which was part of the Royal Engineers, in September 1916. Following this, some of the Royal Indian Marine officers[6] were transferred to the Royal Engineers, in addition to other personnel. Officially, they appear to have been regarded as attached to Inland Water Transport, and to have remained part of Royal Indian Marine.[7]

Second World War

Related articles

External links

Historical books online

References

  1. British Library Royal Indian Marine/Navy IOR/L/MIL/16 discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk.
  2. British Raj List post dated 19 October 2012, archived.
  3. Martin Moir, A General Guide to the India office Records 1996
  4. Melhuish, Arnold. Royal Indian Marine - Medal Index Cards Great War Forum 01 February 2011. Retrieved 15 September 2020.
  5. Abstract of a paper "Royal Indian Marine in the First World War" by Kalesh Mohanan presented at the India And The Great War Conference at The United Service Institution of India, New Delhi: 5-7 March 2014, now an archived webpage.
  6. mbloy [Michael]. Royal Indian Marine - Medal Index Cards Great War Forum 29 January 2009. Retrieved 15 September 2020.
  7. Mesopotamia (Royal Indian Marine) Hansard 12 July 1917.api.parliament.uk. Entry for Lt. James Armstrong in War Dead listed in Gazette of India Extraordinary 18th March 1920.