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*A forum post stated "My grandfather served in the Tank Corps until his demob in 1922. He was last posted to 6 Armoured Car Company, [[Bareilly]], India." In response "6th Armoured Car Coy was formed in Baghdad in 1921 from spare personnel of 1st & 2nd Armd Car Coys (themselves ex-4th Bn Tank Corps). They took over the Austin armoured cars and personnel of 7th Light Armoured Motor Battery, Machine Gun Corps until they got new Rolls-Royces. At the end of 1921 the 6th went to India to join the 7th-11th Coys", quoting Liddell-Hart's ''The Tanks Vol.1''. <ref> [http://www.arrse.co.uk/military-history-militaria/90816-ww1-tank-corps-vehicle-nicknames.html#post1989769 Army Rumour Service Forum]</ref> The [http://www.timsilver.me.uk/reference_letter.jpg Discharge reference letter] with [http://www.timsilver.me.uk/phpgedview/media/discharge_transcript.doc transcript], originally referred to, from [http://www.timsilver.me.uk Tim Silver’s Ancestry website] | *A forum post stated "My grandfather served in the Tank Corps until his demob in 1922. He was last posted to 6 Armoured Car Company, [[Bareilly]], India." In response "6th Armoured Car Coy was formed in Baghdad in 1921 from spare personnel of 1st & 2nd Armd Car Coys (themselves ex-4th Bn Tank Corps). They took over the Austin armoured cars and personnel of 7th Light Armoured Motor Battery, Machine Gun Corps until they got new Rolls-Royces. At the end of 1921 the 6th went to India to join the 7th-11th Coys", quoting Liddell-Hart's ''The Tanks Vol.1''. <ref> [http://www.arrse.co.uk/military-history-militaria/90816-ww1-tank-corps-vehicle-nicknames.html#post1989769 Army Rumour Service Forum]</ref> The [http://www.timsilver.me.uk/reference_letter.jpg Discharge reference letter], [http://www.timsilver.me.uk/phpgedview/media/discharge_letter2.jpg 2nd page] with [http://www.timsilver.me.uk/phpgedview/media/discharge_transcript.doc transcript], originally referred to, concering Pte Wilfred Silver was signed by G. Woods Lieut, from [http://www.timsilver.me.uk Tim Silver’s Ancestry website] | ||
*"My father was a sergeant in the 6th Armoured Car Company...from 1924 to 1931, and I was born in [[Khanspur]]...”<ref>[http://daily-mail.vlex.co.uk/vid/choices-alagiah-mistake-derived-headline-60655499 /daily-mail.vlex.co.uk]</ref> This was a cantonment in the [[Murree|Murree Hills]], where the wives and children spent time while the soldiers were based elsewhere. | *"My father was a sergeant in the 6th Armoured Car Company...from 1924 to 1931, and I was born in [[Khanspur]]...”<ref>[http://daily-mail.vlex.co.uk/vid/choices-alagiah-mistake-derived-headline-60655499 /daily-mail.vlex.co.uk]</ref> This was a cantonment in the [[Murree|Murree Hills]], where the wives and children spent time while the soldiers were based elsewhere. | ||
*C 1933, the 6th Armoured Car Co. was at [[Peshawar]] (for [[Razmak]]).<ref name=RTC /> | *C 1933, the 6th Armoured Car Co. was at [[Peshawar]] (for [[Razmak]]).<ref name=RTC /> |
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Armoured Motor Batteries and Armoured Motor Brigades of the Machine Gun Corps, British Army
Armoured Car Companies and Light Tank Companies of the Royal Tanks Corps, British Army
In 1920, twelve Armoured Car Companies were set up as part of the Tank Corps, absorbing units from the Machine Gun Corps; eight were later converted into independent Light Tank Companies. All disbanded before the outbreak of the Second World War. [1]
By 1936 most armoured cars in service in India had been replaced by light tanks and the cars were distributed to volunteer forces in India and neighbouring countries.[2]
Armoured Motor Batteries and Armoured Motor Brigades MGC 1915-1921
"Armoured Motor Units began to form in Spring of 1915 utilising vehicles donated by rich Indians and Europeans. This was overseen by Colonel Lord Montagu (Inspector of Motor Vehicles, India and later Brigadier General, Advisor on Mechanical Transport Services, India). Only No 1 AMU had reliable vehicles - three Rolls Royces which, like the other cars were armour-plated by Indian Railway Workshops, and this unit acted as a Brigade HQ for Nos 1, 2 & 3 AMUs. Most of the other vehicles were unsuitable and it was not until 1918 that improved cars were made available.
The Units were re-designated Armoured Motor Batteries in 1917 and during this period, British and Indian crews were gradually replaced by MGC personnel. The British crews had originally been provided by Territorials from garrisons in India. By 1919, Nos 2 & 3 Armoured Motor Brigades were formed from Nos 4 - 12 AMBs, whilst Nos 13 - 16 AMBs remained un-brigaded. At the commencement of the 3rd Afghan War, No 1 Armoured Motor Brigade was reorganised into five Regular and three Auxiliary AMBs which served in the Khyber and Chitral areas. HQ No 10 Armoured Motor Brigade, formed in the UK, commanded Nos 5, 6, 7 & 16 AMBs and operated in Waziristan and Mahsud". [3]
The following War Diaries are available at the National Archives, Kew
- North West Frontier Force
- Waziristan Force
- WO 95/5399 10 Armoured Motor Brigade Machine Gun Corps
- WO 95/5399: 1919 June - 1921 Feb: 10 Armoured Motor Brigade Machine Gun Corps: Headquarters
- WO 95/5399: 1919 Aug. - 1921 Aug: 10 Armoured Motor Brigade Machine Gun Corps: 5 Armoured Motor Battery
- WO 95/5399: 1919 July - 1921 Sept: 10 Armoured Motor Brigade Machine Gun Corps: 7 Armoured Motor Battery
- WO 95/5399: 1920 Aug. - 1921 Oct: 10 Armoured Motor Brigade Machine Gun Corps: 16 Armoured Motor Battery
- WO 95/5399: 1921 Nov. - 1922 Feb: 10 Armoured Motor Brigade Machine Gun Corps: Brigade Armoured Car Company
7th Armoured Motor Battery, MGC A member of the 7th Armoured Motor Battery, MGC gained the Indian General Service Medal with clasp Waziristan 1919-21 Pte A N Showell MGC. charliesmedals.co.uk. He is also mentioned in this link from Artfact, quoting details from a Spink and Sons sale in 2007. "7 Armoured Motor Battery was formed Dera Ismail Khan in July 1915 with Indian crews and served in India with Derajat Brigade. Took part in operation on the North West Frontier with 10 Armoured Motor Brigade during the Third Afghan War. Their cars were transferred to 10 Armoured Car Company, Tank Corps in October 1921".
External links
- Machine Gun Corps Wikipedia. The Motor Branch of the Machine Gun Corps formed several types of units: motor cycle batteries, light armoured motor batteries (LAMB) and light car patrols.
- Note in India, the units were known as Armoured Motor Batteries (AMB)
- The Machine Gun Corps Old Comrades' Association
- Jim Parkers’s Machine Gun Corps Pack html versionResearch information
- The 1st Armoured Motor Battery cap badge (arcticmedals.com) and 1st Armoured Motor Battery Officers cap badge whartonmilitaria
- From Jose Luis Castillo‘s blog "Armoured Cars in the WWI"
- Jeffery-Russell Armoured Cars of the 7th Armoured Motor Battery (AMB). Waziristan, ca. 1920
- Advises that on transfer to the 10th Armoured Car Co in 1921
- 5th AMB: 3 x Jeffery-Russell
- 7th AMB: 4 x Jeffery-Russell
- 13th AMB: 3 x Wolseley 12/16
- 15th AMB: 3 x Cadillac ???
- 16th AMB: 3 x Wolseley 24/30
- Distribution of Troops in Waziristan on 6th May 1919.
- Bannu. Nos. 5 & 6 Armoured Motor Batteries
- Dera Ismail Khan. No. 7 Armoured Motor Battery.
- Troops Comprising Waziristan Force, 1919-20.
- Headquarters:Dera Ismail Khan (later in Tank) Machine Gun Corps: Nos. 6 and 7 Armoured Motor Batteries.
- Advises that on transfer to the 10th Armoured Car Co in 1921
- Standard Armoured Car 'Indian Pattern', 10 AMB (10th Armoured Motor Battery) Ferozepore, Punjab, India 1915
- Napier Armoured Car 'Indian Pattern', 10 AMB (10th Armoured Motor Battery) Ferozepore, Punjab, India 1915.
- Straker-Squire Armoured Cars 'Indian Pattern', 11th AMB. 1915, Ambala, India.
- Cadillac Armoured Car 'Indian Pattern', Calcutta, India, 1916 15th Armoured Motor Battery (15 AMB) formed by three Cadillac Armoured Cars (type closed roof) Calcutta 1915 Rebuilt in 1916 by the East Indian Railway Workshops at Lilooah, near Calcutta. Was called Noah’s Ark by the special form of the roof (closed and high), designed for street fighting.
- Fiat Armoured Car ‘Indian Pattern’. North-West Frontier, c. 1918 from Jose Luis Castillo‘s blog "Armoured Cars in the WWI"
- Jeffery-Russell Armoured Cars of the 7th Armoured Motor Battery (AMB). Waziristan, ca. 1920
- 1976 interview with Raymond Briggs Reel 1...Aspects of training and operations with 16th Armoured Motor Battery in India, 1918-1919: reasons for volunteering for armoured car service, 1918; driver training at Peshawar; character of vehicles, crews and unit; internal security duties. Reel 3... Period as instructor with Ahmednagar Tank School, c1921-1925: duties; problems of using armoured cars in aid of civil power. Imperial War Museum
- Rootsweb Great War Forum post includes a reference to the book Machine Guns, their History and Tactical Employment (being also a History of the Machine Gun Corps, 1916-1922) by Graham Seton Hutchison; published Macmillan, London in 1938. Available at the British Library
- Photograph: A motor cycle machine gun team, c 1919 North West Frontier National Army Museum. "Two Motor Machine Gun Batteries, numbers 19 and 22, served during the 3rd Afghan War (1919) and the revolt in Waziristan (1919-1920). They were equipped with Matchless, Premier, Zenith, Enfield and Clyno motorcycles, many of which were fitted with Vickers machine-guns mounted on sidecars. Both units also had armoured car sections".
Royal Tank Corps
Service in India
This link is from the medal dealer DNW and lists various medals for sale in 2004 awarded to members of the Tank Corps. Generally details of the Company are not given. Note these are the medals from one collection, so the list is not exhaustive
- India General Service 1908-35 with clasps
- Malabar 1921-22 this was awarded for the Moplah Uprising and the 8th Armoured Car Company was involved
- Waziristan 1921-24
- North West Frontier 1930-31
- Mohmand 1933
- North West Frontier 1935
- India General Service 1936-39 with clasps
- North West Frontier 1936-37
- North West Frontier 1937-39
Royal Tank Corps School, Ahmednagar
- 1976 interview with Raymond Briggs Reel 3... Period as instructor with Ahmednagar Tank School, c1921-1925: duties; problems of using armoured cars in aid of civil power. Imperial War Museum
1st Armoured Car Company
- The 1st Armoured Car Co. equipped with Rolls Royce cars was sent to Iraq in March 1920 to help put down a rebellion [4]
- This Great War Forum post indicates that 6 LAMB became part of the 1st Armoured Car Co. of the Tank Corps at the end of 1920. 6 LAMB had a Rolls-Royce armoured car called Cleopatra in 1920. Others were called Harvester, Avenger and Chatham. This comes from the unit war diary of the time, which is found under WO 95/5206 at Kew. 6 LAMB were under 17th Indian Division at the time and was based at Ramadi, Iraq.
- The 1st Armoured Car Co. had arrived in India by 1925 [5]
- Private Harold Bryant’s gravestone at Peshawar reads: "Private Harold Bryant. 1st Armoured Car Company. Royal Tank Corps. Killed 23rd April 1930. Aged 25 years. Erected by the officers, NCOs and men of the 1st Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps."[6] He was a despatch rider who was knocked from his machine during a riot situation in Peshawar, had a petrol soaked carpet thrown over him and was burnt alive.[7]
- Photographs from the National Army Museum:
- Riots in Peshawar, 1930 A despatch rider was killed and set on fire, (refer above), his body igniting the armoured car seen burning in this photograph.
- Troops and armoured car during 1930 riots
- Photographs from the National Army Museum:
- A member of the 1st Armoured Car Company gained the India General Service Medal with clasp North West Frontier 1930-31 Pte P J Goodard R Tank C charliesmedals.co.uk
- C 1933, the 1st Armoured Car Co. was at Cawnpore and Calcutta. [8].
- The 1st Light Tank Co took part in operations in Waziristan during 1937.[9]
- "Brought to notice for distinguished services rendered in connection with the operations in Waziristan, North West Frontier of India, 25th November, 1936, to 16th January, 1937":— le Maistre, Capt. R. G., 1st Light Tank Company, Royal Tank Corps. [10]
- The Company does not appear on a listing for 1939 indicating it had been disbanded and/or absorbed[5]
2nd Armoured Car Company
- The 2nd Armoured Car Co. equipped with Rolls Royce cars was sent to Iraq in March 1920 to help put down a rebellion[4] and had arrived in India by 1925 [5]
- C 1933, the 2nd Light Tank Co. was at Peshawar.[8]
- Photograph 7th May 1934: An officer of the 2nd Light Tank Company on patrol near the Khyber Pass in Afridi tribal territory. In the background is the Safed Koh range of mountains with the entrance to the pass itself. Getty Images
- No.7882203 Private William Chatterton, and No.7879367 Lance-Serjeant Harold Ernest Whittington, both of the 2nd Light Tank Company, Royal Tank Corps were awarded the Military Medal for bravery in the field during the Mohmand Operations, North West Frontier of India, 15th/16th August to 15th/16th October,1935 [11]
- Page 6 of this link has a photograph captioned: Light Tank Mk IIB Indian Pattern of the 2nd Light Tank Company RTC, crossing the Nahakki Pass by mule track, Mohmand Operations, North West Frontier, September 1935 [12]
- The Company does not appear on a listing for 1939 indicating it had been disbanded and/or absorbed [5]
- 2nd Armoured Car Company Royal Tank Corps Badge cultmancollectables.com
6th Armoured Car Company
- A forum post stated "My grandfather served in the Tank Corps until his demob in 1922. He was last posted to 6 Armoured Car Company, Bareilly, India." In response "6th Armoured Car Coy was formed in Baghdad in 1921 from spare personnel of 1st & 2nd Armd Car Coys (themselves ex-4th Bn Tank Corps). They took over the Austin armoured cars and personnel of 7th Light Armoured Motor Battery, Machine Gun Corps until they got new Rolls-Royces. At the end of 1921 the 6th went to India to join the 7th-11th Coys", quoting Liddell-Hart's The Tanks Vol.1. [13] The Discharge reference letter, 2nd page with transcript, originally referred to, concering Pte Wilfred Silver was signed by G. Woods Lieut, from Tim Silver’s Ancestry website
- "My father was a sergeant in the 6th Armoured Car Company...from 1924 to 1931, and I was born in Khanspur...”[14] This was a cantonment in the Murree Hills, where the wives and children spent time while the soldiers were based elsewhere.
- C 1933, the 6th Armoured Car Co. was at Peshawar (for Razmak).[8]
- Two sections of the 6th Armoured Car Company (Royal Tank Corps) took part in the Mohmand operations in 1933, one of very few British units present. India General Service Medal with clasp "Mohmand 1933" was awarded to 37841 Pte. M.J. Crawford , R. Tank C and 769291 Pte. A. Robertson, R. Tank C. Pte. Crawford subsequently joined the RAF and is believed to have continued his service with Armoured Cars.[15]
- The 6th Light Tank Co. took part in operations in Waziristan during 1937[9]
- "Brought to notice for distinguished services rendered in connection with the operations in Waziristan, North West Frontier of India, 25th November, 1936, to 16th January, 1937":—Heyland, Maj. H. M., D.S.O., 6th Light Tank Company, Royal Tank Corps. [10]
- The Company does not appear on a listing for 1939 indicating it had been disbanded and/or absorbed [5]
7th Armoured Car Company
- This Great War Forum post indicates the Rolls-Royce Armoured Car "Silver Snipe" served during the 1920s in India as part of the 7th Armoured Car Co.
- The 7th Armoured Car Co Tank Corps arrived in India in February 1921 with Rolls Royce Cars. They went to Peshawar and then to the Frontier. They formed protection picquets. In 1922 a section was sent to Malakand to assist the Chitral Relief Column and in May 1924 to Kohat for the Ellis murders. Pte P Donegan R Tank Corps was awarded the Indian General Service Medal with clasp Wazaristan 1921-24 charliesmedals.co.uk
- 1976 interview with George Warren Richards Reel 3... Period as officer with 7th Armoured Car Coy, Tanks Corps in India, 1921-1924: posting to Peshawar; mechanical problems encountered; patrol duties. Imperial War Museum
- 1985 interview with Sidney Albert Amatt Reel 12 ...Period with 7th Armoured Car Coy, TC based at Peshawar cantonment, ca 1923-1925: bungalow accommodation built to withstand earthquakes; duties as lance corporal in charge of officers' mess. Recollections of period at Cantspur, Rawalpindi, 1923. Imperial War Museum
- Photograph:7th Armoured Car Co. in Peshawar, late 1920s/early 1930s[4]
- 1976 Interview with William Brian Blain Reel 3 Recollections of operations as officer with 7th Armoured Car Coy in India, 1932-1935: posting to unit at Razmak; nature of escort duties; introduction of Light Tank Mark IIB at Quetta. Reel 4 Continues: opinion of Light Tank Mark IIB; duties as adjutant; mechanical problems with Wilson gear box; attending tactical gunnery course at Royal Tank Corps School, Ahmadnagar. Imperial War Museum
- C 1933, the 7th Light Tank Co. was at Quetta.[8]
- In 1935 the 7th Light Tank Co. in Quetta was called out to patrol the streets after an earthquake to prevent looting. They also used their vehicles to pull down the damaged buildings.[16]
- The 7th Light Tank Co. took part in operations in Waziristan during 1937[9]
- The Company does not appear on a listing for 1939 indicating it had been disbanded and/or absorbed [5]
8th Armoured Car Company
- Captain George Archibald Rosser served in Malabar, in command of No 8 Armoured Car Co., later transferring to No 9 Armoured Car Unit, then serving in the Waziristan Campaign[17]
- Page 108 The Mapilla Rebellion 1921-1922 Printed by the Superintendent Government Press Madras 1922 Archive.org, mentions the 8th Armoured Car Co. in the Moplah Uprising or Malabar Rebellion.
- The 8th Armoured Car Co. was in Kirkee in 1926, with commanding officer Lieut Colonel Charles Arthur Bolton[18]
- This link refers to photographs taken by Private H J Dibble No 2 section 8th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps taken in India from October 1925 to January 1930.
- William (Bill) Marsden 1911-1969 entered military service on 12th Sept 1930, enlisting in the Royal Tank Corps as a regular soldier. He spent four years in India on the North-West Frontier, whilst attached to No 2 Section, 8th Armoured Car Company. [19]
- Download a 1976 Interview with Nigel William Duncan Reel 7 Aspects of period as officer with 8th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps in India, 1931-1932: posting to unit in Dehli, 1931; crowd control duties including electrification of armoured cars; crowd control duties at Chandi Chowk; question of suitability of armoured cars for policing role; health problems in India; character of Crossley Armoured Car. Imperial War Museum
- Note: No. 2 Section 8th Armoured Car Company may have operated independently, as it appears it was on the North West Frontier in 1931, not in Delhi.
- Photographs North-West Frontier Province, 1930s The photographer was probably a member of the 8th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps. From “Andrew M Brownhill"
- C 1933 , the 8th Armoured Car Co. was at Delhi (for Peshawar). [8]
- The 8th Light Tank Co. took part in operations in Waziristan during 1937[9]
- Awards to soldiers of the 8th Light Tank Company, Royal Tank Corps for "gallant and distinguished service in action in connection with the operations on the North West Frontier of India, 1937"
- The Distinguished Conduct Medal. No. 1069998 Lance-Corporal Albert Williams.
- The Military Medal. No. 7879515 Corporal Thomas Morton[20]
- The Company does not appear on a listing for 1937 indicating it had been disbanded and/or absorbed after its action in Waziristan [5]
9th Armoured Car Company
- The 9th Armoured Car Company arrived in India in April 1921, with the 10th ACC.
- This link (scroll down) describes the Rolls Royce Indian Pattern armoured cars, dating from 1922, issued to the 9th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps [2]
- In late 1931 "The 9th Armoured Car Company, commanded by Major Simpson, recently left Kirkee and proceeded to Belgaum, where it linked up with the 6th Armoured Car Company and engaged in technical training for a week...” (more details)[21]
- C 1933, the 9th Armoured Car Co. was at Razmak (for Delhi).[8]
- The 9th Light Tank Co. took part in operations in Waziristan during 1937[9]
- This link, (dnw.co.uk) concerning the medals of Squadron Quartermaster Sergeant E. L. Parkin contains an image of a certificate for “Devotion to duty” awarded to L/Corpl E L Parkin 9th Light Tank Company during Waziristan Operations 1936-37 (Final Phase)
- The Company does not appear on a listing for 1939 indicating it had been disbanded and/or absorbed [5]
10th Armoured Car Company
- The 10th ACC arrived in India with the 9th ACC in April 1921. They proceeded to Bareilly for training with Ford Box bodies. At the end of 1921 they went up to NW Frontier and there absorbed the 5th, 7th & 16th Armoured Motor Batteries now all called the 10th Armoured Motor Brigade they were armed with Jeffrey Quads.
- They all operated on both the Takki Zam line and in the Tochi Valley and were active daily patrols. Two noteworthy events happened.
- 1) March 1922 at Idak a pigeon carried by the cars reported an ambush, flying five miles in five mins.
- Later in year the Company was in action against a raiding party at Hinnis Tangai Ridge.
- In July 1923 six cars moved 140 miles in 17 1/12 hours taking part in the surrounding of the Hisa Mahal Nabha State. The Maharaja received an ultimatum and soon afterwards was dethroned. Colonel K Wigram congratulated the cars on their performance.
- Pte P C Chalmers R Tank Corps was awarded the Indian General Service Medal with clasp Wazaristan 1921-24 charliesmedals.co.uk
- Grave at Quetta - "In memory of No. 7878958 Private P.C. Griffiths. 10th Armoured Car Company. Royal Tank Corps who died at Quetta 15 June 1930." [22]
- 1976 Interview with Henry Maughan 'Bill' Liardet Reel 2: Recollections of period as officer with 10th Armoured Car Coy, Royal Tank Corps in India, 1930-1935: posting to unit, 1930; character of Guy Armoured Car; comparison between home and Indian service; operating with cavalry; opinion of Crossley Armoured Cars; posting to Razmak; duties protecting road builders; gunnery and maintenance courses at Ahmednagar; problems with supply of spares; character of Ahmednagar course. Reel 3 Continues: armoured car tactical training; Percy Hobart's visit to Razmak. Imperial War Museum
- C 1933, the 10th Armoured Car Co. was at Kirkee.[8]
- Obituary of Captain Frank Naughton, GC who as a private in the 10th Light Tank Company, based at Kirkee, saved a colleague from drowning August 5 1936 and was awarded the Empire Gallantry Medal. The Telegraph 22 Jun 2004 There is a photo of him in this link
- The Company does not appear on a listing for 1937 indicating it had been disbanded and/or absorbed. [5]
11th Armoured Car Company
- 1985 interview with Sidney Albert Amatt Reel 10 ...posting to newly formed No 11 Armoured Car Coy; Reel 11... Recollections of initial acclimatisation period at Deolali Camp, ca 1/1922-2/1922: Reel 12 ...Period with 7th Armoured Car Coy, TC based at Peshawar cantonment, ca 1923-1925. Recollections of period at Cantspur, Rawalpindi, 1923. Imperial War Museum
- C 1933, the 11th Armoured Car Co. was at Lahore.[8]
- The 11th Light Tank Co. took part in operations in Waziristan during 1937[9]
- "Brought to notice for distinguished services rendered in connection with the operations in Waziristan, North West Frontier of India, 25th November, 1936, to 16th January, 1937":—Pike, No. 7870476, C/Sjt. (C.Q.M.S.) A., 11 th Light Tank Company, Royal Tank Corps. [10] He is mentioned in this dnw.co.uk link. "Colour-Sergeant Pike served as C.Q.M.S. with the 11th Armoured Car (later Light Tank) Company between 1936 and 1938. The unit was stationed at Peshawar and took part in the operations along the North West Frontier against tribesmen led by the Fakir of Ipi. Pike later transferred to the 4th Royal Tank Regiment"
- The 11th Light Tank Co. was part of the Razmak Brigade in Waziristan in 1939[23]
- The Company does not appear on a listing for 1939 indicating it had been disbanded and/or absorbed later in the year. [5]
Regimental journal
The Tank Corps Journal, first publishe 1919-1920. The title changed in 1923 to The Royal Tank Corps Journal.
The Tank Museum Bovington (refer External links below) has advised they have a complete set of journals, (which are scanned, but unfortunately not available on their website) .[24] The National Army Museum, London, catalogue lists volumes from No 1 1919–1920 to No 15 1933-1934 (missing No 11-12) . Australian War Memorial Research Centre, Canberra ACT Australia has volume 8, no. 85 (May 1926)-v.18,209 (Sept. 1936) and Nos. 1-3, Jan. 1937-Jan. 1938
This link says several articles on the campaigns in Waziristan 1921-24 were published in the Tank Corps Journal in the early 1920s.[25]
This link refers to an article "Tanks in India" by General Sir John Crocker which appeared in the Royal Tank Corps Journal of July 1925.[26]
Jeffrey Armoured Cars
- Jeffery armored car Wikipedia
- 1915 Jeffery-Quad Armored Car No. 1 (warwheels.net) advises a number were purchased by the British for use in India in 1916
- Jeffery quad armoured car (irishmilitaryonline) indicates: twenty sent to India originated in an order originally made for Canadian troops in 1915. However only sixteen arriving in India after four had been lost along with most of the spare parts when the cargo ship SS Shirala was torpedo by a German U boat U-57 on the 2nd of July 1918. Fifteen of the Indian Jeffery’s can be accounted for, serving with the A.M.B (armoured motor batteries) 4th 5th 7th 8th & 10th three Jeffery’s in each A.M.B during the 3rd Afghan War February to August of 1919. Further cars from the Canadian order may have been sent to India after use in Ireland in the early 1920s
- Jeffery-Russell Armoured Car. India, ca.1919from Jose Luis Castillo‘s blog "Armoured Cars in the WWI"
- Photograph: Jeffery Quad armoured cars on reconnaissance in Waziristan, 1920 National Army Museum
Rolls-Royce Armoured Cars
- Rolls-Royce Armoured Cars Wikipedia
- Rolls-Royce Armoured Cars rrec.org.uk
- Scroll down to "Memories of times spent as a young Lance Corporal (fitter) in a Rolls-Royce armoured car company in India 1929-36" by J R Chapman
- Rolls-Royce Armored Car: The Bulletproof Ghost by Jim Motavalli. historynet.com The comments section at the end has some links to some photographs taken at the Tank Museum at Ahmednagar
- This link (scroll down) describes the Rolls Royce Indian Pattern armoured cars, dating from 1922, issued to the 9th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps [2]
- Rolls-Royce Indian Pattern 9th Armoured Car Co. RTC c 1925 Description page 32, with illustration on page 33 from The Rolls-Royce Armoured Car by David Fletcher Preview Google Books
- Photograph: 1920 Pattern Rolls Royce armoured cars of 5th Armoured Car Co. RTC in Shanghai during the late 1920s WW2 Talk, originally from the Tank Museum’s Facebook feed. The 5th Armoured Car Co. does not appear to have served in India.
- Landships WW1 Forum thread Service History for Rolls Royce Armoured Cars has two attachments (scroll down) called 'RR AC Units and Numbers 3-20-2007.xls' and 'Identified Rolls Royce Armoured Cars 3-12-2007.xls' . These however are viewable only if you are a member of this Forum
Crossley Armoured Cars
After the First World War, the British Army in India had a requirement for Armoured Cars for areas such as the North West frontier. A delegation was despatched to Britain to see what was on offer and particularly to look at the offerings from Rolls-Royce as their wartime models had performed well. As well as being expensive they surprisingly were unable to get over the gradient test on the cross country trial. There was also at the trials a 1 1/2 ton Crossley based on the chassis that had been intended for a Russian contract that came to nothing because of the Revolution. This was the chassis that was under consideration as a medium truck for India and eventually became the IGL1. It sailed through the trials. An order for 32 followed with bodies by Vickers and these were designated IGA1 by Crossley. These were delivered in 1923 and a further order followed. Total deliveries were about 450. All of these vehicles were fitted with solid tyres presumably to remove the risk of punctures but these were never very successful when used off road as their narrow profile inevitably led to the vehicle sinking up to its axles.[27]
Crossley armoured cars did not prove popular with their crews who found them underpowered and underbraked due to the weight of the armoured body. Brakes were fitted to the rear wheels only which made handling these cars on the mountainous roads of the North-West Frontier of India a tricky business.[28]
- Crossley Military Vehicles after WW1 crossley-motors.org.uk
- Crossley Indian Pattern Armored Car warwheels.net
- One of the references quoted is "Crossley Armoured Cars: Inter-War Years" December 2007 issue of Military Machines International Magazine. This issue may be bought online from the publisher
- Crossley-Chevrolet M1939 Indian Pattern Armored Car warwheels.net
- Photograph:1930s Crossley India Pattern Armoured Car on the North West Frontier flickr.com
- Two photographs taken by Sergeant Harry Ewin with the Royal Artillery in India during the early 1930s. Imperial War Museum
- Scenes with a marching column on the North West Frontier of India: Crossley (India pattern) armoured cars and crews parked-up during the march. All crewmen are wearing Royal Tank Corps issue overalls
- Scenes with a marching column on the North West Frontier of India: Crossley (India pattern) armoured car and crew parked-up during the march.
- Photograph: Crossley-Chevrolet Armoured Car flickr.com
Light Tanks
- This link refers to an article "Tanks in India" by General Sir John Crocker which appeared in the Royal Tank Corps Journal of July 1925[26]
- By c 1933, the 2nd and 7th Armoured Car Companies had become the 2nd Light Tank Co. based at Peshawar and the 7th Light Tank Co. based at Quetta [8]
- By 1936 most armoured cars in service in India had been replaced by light tanks and the cars were distributed to volunteer forces in India and neighbouring countries[2]
- Article "Light Tanks for General Utility" by Edmond C Fleming New York National Guardsman November 1937 pages 4-5, 18, 22, 24, computer pages 6-7, 20,24, 26. The North West Frontier of India with many quotes from the Royal Tank Corps Journal
- Light Tanks Mark I-VI by Major General N W Duncan www.scribd.com
- Photograph: Light Tank Mark II flickr.com
- Photograph of Tank Light Mk IIA flickr.com A comment under the photograph advises this type of tank was in service in the 1930s on the North West Frontier of India .
- Photograph of Light Tank Mark IVA Indian Pattern The description says "This tank was only used in India so was probably at Ahmednagar, in the mid 1930s"
- Photograph: Light Tanks, Lahore New Years Day 1936 flickr.com
- Armoured Carrier, Wheeled, India Pattern Mark II/IIA/IIB/IIC 1940-1944 warwheels.net
- Scroll down Incredible Ahmednagar, for details of the Tank Museum, established by the Armored Corps Centre and School, Ahmednagar in February 1994. Photographs on picasaweb rahul m’s Gallery, morakhandi v’s Gallery
External links
- Royal Tank Regiment Wikipedia
- The Royal Tank Regiment 1916–1998 army.mod.uk
- The Tank Museum at Bovington Dorset
- The Royal Tank Regiment Association
- The History of the 4th and 7th Royal Tank Regiments: 1918-1939
- Early Armoured Cars (Shire Album 209, 1988) by E. Bartholomew, scribd.com
- This Great War Forum post from the thread Tank Corps in India/Waziristan 1921 lists some sources for information, including Liddell Hart's The Tanks
- Details of a mid 1930s film Trial at Chaklala Military Testing Ground of Armoured Cars/Light tanks. colonialfilm.org.uk (The owner of the film, the British Empire & Commonwealth Museum has closed and it is intended the collection be given to Bristol City Museum)
Photographs
- Photographs North-West Frontier Province, 1930s The photographer was probably a member of the 8th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps. From “Andrew M Brownhill"
- Photographs of Royal Tank Corps armoured cars in India 1920s, from ‘through their eyes' photostream flickr.com
- Photograph of Crew 1, tagged India 1930s flickr.com, Photograph of Crew 2, tagged India 1930s flickr.com
- Armoured Car 1 North West Frontier - c 1925, Armoured Car 4 and probably Armoured Car 3 appear to be to be similar place and time, Armoured Car 2, probably similar time, place unclear (NWF India/Egypt/Iraq) PeteBoro’s photostream on flick.com
- The following photographs were possibly taken during the Waziristan Campaign 1936-37
- Christmas Day scene with the Royal Tank Corps at Khaisora Camp, North West Frontier 1930's (hmvf.co.uk/forum) Includes 2 other photographs. All three are also available on flickr.com, some with additional comments
- Christmas Day celebrations at Khaisora Camp. "Note the determined look on Howells & Lewellyn's faces as they open the bottle. None of them remember me taking this". flickr.com
- The night before the Coy. moved into Khaisora Camp. Most of the lads were fed-up! flickr.com
- British Army Khaisora Camp- North West Frontier - 1930s Includes Tank Corps personnel. flickr.com
- A Vickers Light Tank Mk 11A - Royal Tank Corps - North West Frontier - 1930s shown crossing a river flickr.com
References
- ↑ Royal Tank Regiment Association: Between the Wars
- ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 Armoured Car Section, BAF [Burma Auxiliary Force] from Steve Rothwell’s The Burma Campaign
- ↑ link from Artfact, quoting details from a Spink and Sons sale in 2007, for medals of 7808665 Pte. A.N. Showell, M.G.C
- ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 The History of the 4th and 7th Royal Tank Regiments 1918-1939
- ↑ 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 The Royal Tank Regiment1916 – 1998 army.mod.uk Cite error: Invalid
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tag; name "RTR" defined multiple times with different content - ↑ Stephen Lewis' Soldiers Memorials , Graves in India, letter B
- ↑ Military History Forum thread
- ↑ 8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3 8.4 8.5 8.6 8.7 8.8 Royal Tank Corps by Michael, asmrb.pbworks.com Date not stated, but probably with details c 1933
- ↑ 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 9.4 9.5 "Report on Operations in Waziristan 25th November 1936 to 15th December 1937" London Gazette Supplements "1st Phase", "Second Phase", "Final Phase"
- ↑ 10.0 10.1 10.2 London Gazette 18 February 1938 page 1073
- ↑ London Gazette 8 May 1936 page 2979
- ↑ Light Tanks Mark I-VI by Major General N W Duncan www.scribd.com
- ↑ Army Rumour Service Forum
- ↑ /daily-mail.vlex.co.uk
- ↑ dnw.co.uk and Item 597 bosleys.net
- ↑ Britain's Light Tank Mk II, Mk IIA, MK IIB wwiivehicles.com quoting The Encyclopedia of Tanks and Armored Fighting Vehicles - The Comprehensive Guide to Over 900 Armored Fighting Vehicles From 1915 to the Present Day, General Editor: Christopher F. Foss, 2002
- ↑ wartimememoriesproject.com
- ↑ Rootchat.com Armed Forces Forum
- ↑ ebay seller grahame555
- ↑ London Gazette 13 August 1937, page 5177
- ↑ The Straits Times, 11 December 1931, Page 6
- ↑ Stephen Lewis' Soldiers Memorials , Graves in India, letter G
- ↑ Waziristan Campaign Order of Battle 1939 from A Story of War
- ↑ Email to User:Maureene dated 1 March 2012 .
- ↑ Great War Forum thread Tank Corps in India/Waziristan 1921
- ↑ 26.0 26.1 Page 124 Corps Commanders: Five British and Canadian Generals at War, 1939-45 by Douglas E. Delaney Preview Google Books
- ↑ Crossley Military Vehicles after WW1 crossley-motors.org.uk
- ↑ Thread from WW2Talk "Armoured Cars, Tanks, Other Vehicles... & Pith Helmets" with images