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*The GRO Marine births and deaths indexes are Searchable on [[findmypast]] (pay website). See a comment in The National Archives, the section above, or for more details, see [[Chaplains Returns#Accessing the above British Army Overseas Indexes|'''Chaplains Returns''']]. | *The GRO Marine births and deaths indexes are Searchable on [[findmypast]] (pay website). See a comment in The National Archives, the section above, or for more details, see [[Chaplains Returns#Accessing the above British Army Overseas Indexes|'''Chaplains Returns''']]. | ||
*The GRO Marine births and deaths indexes images can be browsed without charge at familyrelatives.com, but it is not possible to search for a specific name, as the images have not been transcribed. See [[Chaplains Returns#Accessing the above British Army Overseas Indexes|'''Chaplains Returns''']] for more details about this website and how to access these records online on pay websites. | *The GRO Marine births and deaths indexes images can be browsed without charge at familyrelatives.com, but it is not possible to search for a specific name, as the images have not been transcribed. See [[Chaplains Returns#Accessing the above British Army Overseas Indexes|'''Chaplains Returns''']] for more details about this website and how to access these records online on pay websites. | ||
*The indexes are also available as [[FamilySearch]] microfiches, which perhaps may become digitally available | *The indexes are also available as [[FamilySearch]] microfiches, which perhaps may become digitally available during 2021, or later. See [[Chaplains Returns#Accessing the above British Army Overseas Indexes|Chaplains Returns]] for more details. | ||
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See [[Newspapers]]. | See [[Newspapers]]. | ||
A number of newspapers in the United Kingdom from 1824 into the 1860s contained a Monthly Military Obituary, being a list of names of officers. Includes deaths overseas or in transit (for example on board ship). Available in online newspaper collections including [[findmypast]].<ref>Clark, Noel. [https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/india.rootsweb.com/thread/113649/ | A number of newspapers in the United Kingdom from 1824 into the 1860s contained a Monthly Military Obituary, being a list of names of officers. Includes deaths overseas or in transit (for example on board ship). Available in online newspaper collections including [[findmypast]].<ref>Clark, Noel. [https://web.archive.org/web/20200507050402/https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/india.rootsweb.com/thread/113649/ The "Monthly Military Obituary"] ''Rootsweb India Mailing List'' 26 March 2016, archived.</ref> | ||
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===Historical books online=== | ===Historical books online=== | ||
*[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=qI1JAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA183 Pages 183-184 ''Asiatic Annual Register for 1806'']. Under a heading Deaths, May 1805, "At sea. On board the ''David Scott'', East Indiaman, off the Cape of Good Hope, Mrs Clerk, wife to Lieut. Col. Clark, of the Madras establishment. ... '''Her remains were preserved in spirits''' until the 31st December following, when they were interred at St. Helena... " The date of death of May 1805 is inaccurate, as Mrs Lucy Clarke died 20 December 1804. <ref> findmypast has a burial record for “Mrs Lucy Clark, Passenger, Ship Dav. Scott” for burial on 1 January 1805. Also see Jackson, Helen. [https:// | *[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=qI1JAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA183 Pages 183-184 ''Asiatic Annual Register for 1806'']. Under a heading Deaths, May 1805, "At sea. On board the ''David Scott'', East Indiaman, off the Cape of Good Hope, Mrs Clerk, wife to Lieut. Col. Clark, of the Madras establishment. ... '''Her remains were preserved in spirits''' until the 31st December following, when they were interred at St. Helena... " The date of death of May 1805 is inaccurate, as Mrs Lucy Clarke died 20 December 1804. <ref> findmypast has a burial record for “Mrs Lucy Clark, Passenger, Ship Dav. Scott” for burial on 1 January 1805. Also see Jackson, Helen. [https://web.archive.org/web/20210202224946/https://mlarchives.rootsweb.com/listindexes/emails?listname=india&thread=1661742 INDIA Digest, Vol 5, Issue 235] ''Rootsweb India Mailing List'' 20 July 2010, archived.</ref> | ||
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Revision as of 22:58, 2 February 2021
Records
The National Archives
The National Archives holds a number of series relating to BMDs at sea. Details can be found on the Your Archives wiki.
Records include the open-access microfilm series BT 158: Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea 1854 - 1890 British Subjects and Other Nationalities. There are many entries detailing events for men serving in various British Army regiments and the Indian Army, together with births and deaths of Regimental Wives and their causes. As an example of births in the period 1854 to 1858, the birth of twins to Joanna Wedderburn the Wife of Andrew Wedderburn of the Madras Civil Service.
TNA also holds the Colonial Office Registers of Births and Dates of Emigrants at Sea
The following records of births, deaths and marriages of passengers at sea are available online through BMDRegisters
- BT 158 - Registers of Births, Deaths and Marriages of Passengers at Sea 1854-1890
- BT 159 - Registers of Deaths at Sea of British Nationals 1875-1888. The name of this series is misleading as it includes other nationalities
- BT 160 - Registers of Births at Sea of British Nationals 1875-1891
The records give detailed information compiled from ships' logs by the Registrar General of Shipping and Seamen and its predecessor. The registers cover 1854 to 1908 and include over 150,000 individuals. It is free to search on the website but there is a charge for downloading images of original records.
The online pay website findmypast contains three datasets
- Births At Sea, 1854-1960 which includes records from BT 158, BT 334
- Marriages At Sea, 1854-1972 which includes records from BT 158, BT 334
- Deaths At Sea, 1781-1968, which includes records from BT 153, BT 156, BT 157, BT 158, BT 334, CO 386
- FamilySearch (free records) includes a collection in "England Indexed Historical Records", titled "United Kingdom, Maritime Births, Marriages, and Deaths, 1787-1933" which consists of index records (no images) from the findmypast database. You must be signed in to FamilySearch to view these records.
- Update: January 2018 These three findmypast databases have been incorporated into larger databases titled British Armed Forces and Overseas Births and Baptisms, Marriages, Deaths (3 databases).[1] These latter databases also contain the GRO Marine Indexes for Births and Deaths, see next section.
The online pay website Ancestry introduced in April 2016 a dataset called UK, Registers of Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea, 1844-1890 containing records from BT 153, BT 156, BT 157, BT 158, BT 159. BT 160, CO 386, CUST 67.
It appears from the description available on these three website, that there is much overlap of the records, but findmypast and Ancestry each contain some records not found on the other website.
The records continue to be also available on microfilm at The National Archives
General Register Office (GRO)
The Marine Registers held at the General Register Office record births and deaths at sea on ships registered in Great Britain and Ireland from July 1837. They, therefore, contain earlier records than the BT registers held at The National Archives – although both contain omissions, particularly in earlier years as it was only from 1874 that Ships Masters were legally obliged to report births and deaths at sea to the Registrar of Shipping and Seamen. Note that for at least seamen, (and perhaps passengers if their address was known), the records held at the General Register Office may only be in respect of English and Welsh seamen. Records which were originally sent to the Registrar of Shipping and Seamen, may subsequently have been forwarded to National Records of Scotland, or General Register Office for Northern Ireland, respectively for Scottish and Irish seamen.[2]. For Scottish records, try the Scottish Deaths at Sea return on Scotland's People (pay website).
The Marine Registers held at the GRO do not contain entries relating to marriages at sea.
There are some records relating to events at sea in the RG series of overseas records, see General Register Office which details how to access these records, online on pay websites.
- The GRO Marine births and deaths indexes are Searchable on findmypast (pay website). See a comment in The National Archives, the section above, or for more details, see Chaplains Returns.
- The GRO Marine births and deaths indexes images can be browsed without charge at familyrelatives.com, but it is not possible to search for a specific name, as the images have not been transcribed. See Chaplains Returns for more details about this website and how to access these records online on pay websites.
- The indexes are also available as FamilySearch microfiches, which perhaps may become digitally available during 2021, or later. See Chaplains Returns for more details.
London Metropolitan Archives
Another source for records at sea, but not part of the National Archives, is the London Metropolitan Archives which contains some overseas records, including records at sea, previously held at the Guildhall Library. These records are explained in the FamilySearch Wiki article, "British Births, Marriages and Deaths Overseas", refer External links below.
Some of these records are available on FamilySearch. Index records from some microfilms have been transcribed and the microfilms have been digitised [3]
Note, some records from the London Metropolitan Archives are available on the pay website Ancestry, but not currently (March 2014) the overseas records which include some records at sea. It is not known whether these overseas records will be digitized in the future.
Newspapers
See Newspapers.
A number of newspapers in the United Kingdom from 1824 into the 1860s contained a Monthly Military Obituary, being a list of names of officers. Includes deaths overseas or in transit (for example on board ship). Available in online newspaper collections including findmypast.[4]
See also
External links
- findmypast
- British Births, Marriages and Deaths Overseas Family Search Wiki. There are some references to events at sea
- Guildhall Library Manuscripts Section. Leaflet Guides to Records: Births, Marriages And Deaths Overseas These records have since been transferred to the London Metropolitan Archives.
- Tracing Seafaring Ancestors In The Merchant Navy National Museums Liverpool, Maritime Archives & Library Information Sheet 43, dated 2015. Includes a section on deaths.
Podcasts
Historical books online
- Pages 183-184 Asiatic Annual Register for 1806. Under a heading Deaths, May 1805, "At sea. On board the David Scott, East Indiaman, off the Cape of Good Hope, Mrs Clerk, wife to Lieut. Col. Clark, of the Madras establishment. ... Her remains were preserved in spirits until the 31st December following, when they were interred at St. Helena... " The date of death of May 1805 is inaccurate, as Mrs Lucy Clarke died 20 December 1804. [5]
References
- ↑ British Armed Forces and Overseas Births and Baptisms; British Armed Forces and Overseas Banns and Marriages; British Armed Forces and Overseas Deaths and Burials findmypast
- ↑ "Tracing Seafaring Ancestors In The Merchant Navy". National Museums Liverpool, Maritime Archives & Library Information Sheet 43, dated 2015. See External links above.
- ↑ LDS Microfilm catalogue entry Original certificates of baptisms and marriages of British subjects abroad, solemnized or registered at diplomatic representations
- ↑ Clark, Noel. The "Monthly Military Obituary" Rootsweb India Mailing List 26 March 2016, archived.
- ↑ findmypast has a burial record for “Mrs Lucy Clark, Passenger, Ship Dav. Scott” for burial on 1 January 1805. Also see Jackson, Helen. INDIA Digest, Vol 5, Issue 235 Rootsweb India Mailing List 20 July 2010, archived.