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The Units were re-designated Armoured Motor Batteries in 1917 and during this period, British and Indian crews were gradually replaced by MGC personnel. The British crews had originally been provided by Territorials from garrisons in India.  
The Units were re-designated Armoured Motor Batteries in 1917 and during this period, British and Indian crews were gradually replaced by MGC personnel. The British crews had originally been provided by Territorials from garrisons in India.  
By 1919, Nos 2 & 3 Armoured Motor Brigades were formed from Nos 4 - 12 AMBs, whilst Nos 13 - 16 AMBs remained un-brigaded. At the commencement of the 3rd Afghan War, No 1 Armoured Motor Brigade was reorganised into five Regular and three Auxiliary AMBs which served in the Khyber and Chitral areas. HQ No 10 Armoured Motor Brigade, formed in the UK, commanded Nos 5, 6, 7 & 16 AMBs and operated in Waziristan and Mahsud". <ref>[http://www.artfact.com/auction-lot/india-general-service-1908-35,-g.v.r.,-two-clasps-1-c-2ldcgbbbnu link] from Artfact, quoting details from a Spink and Sons sale in 2007, for medals of 7808665 Pte. A.N. Showell, M.G.C</ref>
By 1919, Nos 2 & 3 Armoured Motor Brigades were formed from Nos 4 - 12 AMBs, whilst Nos 13 - 16 AMBs remained un-brigaded. At the commencement of the 3rd Afghan War, No 1 Armoured Motor Brigade was reorganised into five Regular and three Auxiliary AMBs which served in the Khyber and Chitral areas. HQ No 10 Armoured Motor Brigade, formed in the UK, commanded Nos 5, 6, 7 & 16 AMBs and operated in Waziristan and Mahsud". <ref>[http://www.artfact.com/auction-lot/india-general-service-1908-35,-g.v.r.,-two-clasps-1-c-2ldcgbbbnu Link] from Artfact, quoting details from a Spink and Sons sale in 2007, for medals of 7808665 Pte. A.N. Showell, M.G.C</ref>


The following War Diaries are available at [[The National Archives|the National Archives]], Kew
The following War Diaries are available at [[The National Archives|the National Archives]], Kew
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====6th Armoured Car Company====
====6th Armoured Car Company====
*A forum post stated "My grandfather served in the Tank Corps until his demob in 1922. He was last posted to 6 Armoured Car Company, [[Bareilly]], India."  In response "6th Armoured Car Coy was formed in Baghdad in 1921 from spare personnel of 1st & 2nd Armd Car Coys (themselves ex-4th Bn Tank Corps). They took over the Austin armoured cars and personnel of 7th Light Armoured Motor Battery, Machine Gun Corps until they got new Rolls-Royces. At the end of 1921 the 6th went to India to join the 7th-11th Coys",  quoting Liddell-Hart's ''The Tanks Vol.1''. <ref> [http://www.arrse.co.uk/military-history-militaria/90816-ww1-tank-corps-vehicle-nicknames.html#post1989769 Army Rumour Service Forum]</ref> The [http://www.timsilver.me.uk/reference_letter.jpg Discharge reference letter], [http://www.timsilver.me.uk/phpgedview/media/discharge_letter2.jpg 2nd page]  with [http://www.timsilver.me.uk/phpgedview/media/discharge_transcript.doc transcript], originally referred to, concering Pte Wilfred Silver was signed by G. Woods Lieut, from [http://www.timsilver.me.uk Tim Silver’s Ancestry website]
*A forum post stated "My grandfather served in the Tank Corps until his demob in 1922. He was last posted to 6 Armoured Car Company, [[Bareilly]], India."  In response "6th Armoured Car Coy was formed in Baghdad in 1921 from spare personnel of 1st & 2nd Armd Car Coys (themselves ex-4th Bn Tank Corps). They took over the Austin armoured cars and personnel of 7th Light Armoured Motor Battery, Machine Gun Corps until they got new Rolls-Royces. At the end of 1921 the 6th went to India to join the 7th-11th Coys",  quoting Liddell-Hart's ''The Tanks Vol.1''. <ref> [http://www.arrse.co.uk/military-history-militaria/90816-ww1-tank-corps-vehicle-nicknames.html#post1989769 Army Rumour Service Forum]</ref> The [http://www.timsilver.me.uk/reference_letter.jpg Discharge reference letter], [http://www.timsilver.me.uk/phpgedview/media/discharge_letter2.jpg 2nd page]  with [http://www.timsilver.me.uk/phpgedview/media/discharge_transcript.doc transcript], originally referred to, concering Pte Wilfred Silver was signed by G. Woods Lieut, from [http://www.timsilver.me.uk Tim Silver’s Ancestry website]
*"My father was a sergeant in the 6th Armoured Car Company...from 1924 to 1931, and I was born in [[Khanspur]]...”<ref>[http://daily-mail.vlex.co.uk/vid/choices-alagiah-mistake-derived-headline-60655499 /daily-mail.vlex.co.uk]</ref> This was a cantonment in the [[Murree|Murree Hills]], where the wives and children spent time while the soldiers were based elsewhere.  
*"My father was a sergeant in the 6th Armoured Car Company...from 1924 to 1931, and I was born in [[Khanspur]]...”<ref>[http://daily-mail.vlex.co.uk/vid/choices-alagiah-mistake-derived-headline-60655499 daily-mail.vlex.co.uk]</ref> This was a cantonment in the [[Murree|Murree Hills]], where the wives and children spent time while the soldiers were based elsewhere.  
*C 1933, the 6th Armoured Car Co. was at [[Peshawar]] (for [[Razmak]]).<ref name=RTC />
*C 1933, the 6th Armoured Car Co. was at [[Peshawar]] (for [[Razmak]]).<ref name=RTC />
*Two sections of the 6th Armoured Car Company (Royal Tank Corps) took part in the Mohmand operations in 1933, one of very few British units present. India General Service Medal with clasp "Mohmand 1933"  was awarded to 37841 Pte. M.J. Crawford , R. Tank C and 769291 Pte. A. Robertson, R. Tank C. Pte. Crawford subsequently joined the RAF and  is believed to have continued his service with Armoured Cars.<ref>[http://www.dnw.co.uk/medals/auctionarchive/viewspecialcollections/itemdetail.lasso?itemid=45404  dnw.co.uk] and [http://www.bosleys.net/b72/medals.html  Item 597 bosleys.net]</ref>  
*Two sections of the 6th Armoured Car Company (Royal Tank Corps) took part in the Mohmand operations in 1933, one of very few British units present. India General Service Medal with clasp "Mohmand 1933"  was awarded to 37841 Pte. M.J. Crawford , R. Tank C and 769291 Pte. A. Robertson, R. Tank C. Pte. Crawford subsequently joined the RAF and  is believed to have continued his service with Armoured Cars.<ref>[http://www.dnw.co.uk/medals/auctionarchive/viewspecialcollections/itemdetail.lasso?itemid=45404  dnw.co.uk] and [http://www.bosleys.net/b72/medals.html  Item 597 bosleys.net]</ref>  
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**The Military Cross. Lieutenant Harry Osborn Stibbard.  
**The Military Cross. Lieutenant Harry Osborn Stibbard.  
**The Military Medal for bravery in the Field. No. 7883052 Private Phillip Henry Carroll<ref>[http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/34409/pages/3924 ''The London Gazette'', 18 June, 1937, page 3924]</ref>
**The Military Medal for bravery in the Field. No. 7883052 Private Phillip Henry Carroll<ref>[http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/34409/pages/3924 ''The London Gazette'', 18 June, 1937, page 3924]</ref>
*Details of the contents of a photograph album 6th Light Tank Company 1938-1939 including: March 1938, Vickers light tank, firing practice at [[Khanspur]]. The tanks have numbers on each and you can clearly see numbers 3,4,5 and 6. Kingsway driving ground Delhi. October 1938 more Kingsway driving ground.  Photos of the Indian Afghanistan border. Photos of Sanga-Sara [Sangasara] Camp [probably North Waziristan] 2 photos of military silver, armoured car and Vickers Mk IV Tank. Two bridges Sangra-Sara and Kysor River Bridge blown up by local tribesmen. <ref>[http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/6th-light-tank-company-india-royal-312941507 worthpoint.com]</ref>  
*Details of the contents of a photograph album 6th Light Tank Company 1938-1939 including: March 1938, Vickers light tank, firing practice at Khanpur [possibly [[Khanspur]]?]. The tanks have numbers on each and you can clearly see numbers 3,4,5 and 6. Kingsway driving ground Delhi. October 1938 more Kingsway driving ground.  Photos of the Indian Afghanistan border. Photos of Sanga-Sara [Sangasara] Camp [probably North Waziristan] 2 photos of military silver, armoured car and Vickers Mk IV Tank. Two bridges Sangra-Sara and Kysor River Bridge blown up by local tribesmen. <ref>[http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/6th-light-tank-company-india-royal-312941507 worthpoint.com]</ref>  
*The Mark VIB (Indian Pattern) tanks of 6th Light Tank Company RTC were photographed in India in early 1939, in front of the Red Fort in Delhi<ref>Thread:[http://www.network54.com/Forum/47208/thread/1339363660/Vickers+Light+Tank+MKVI+B+(India+Pattern)+color Vickers Light Tank MKVI B (India Pattern) color]  Discussion group:Allied</ref>
*The Mark VIB (Indian Pattern) tanks of 6th Light Tank Company RTC were photographed in India in early 1939, in front of the Red Fort in Delhi<ref>Thread:[http://www.network54.com/Forum/47208/thread/1339363660/Vickers+Light+Tank+MKVI+B+(India+Pattern)+color Vickers Light Tank MKVI B (India Pattern) color]  Discussion group:Allied</ref>
*WW2Talk Forum [http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/recce/33905-searching-truth.html  thread] indicates the 6th Light Tank Company was disbanded in 1939 and at least one member was posted back to the UK  in April 1939 to “an armoured division in the tank corp”
*WW2Talk Forum [http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/recce/33905-searching-truth.html  thread] indicates the 6th Light Tank Company was disbanded in 1939 and at least one member was posted back to the UK  in April 1939 to “an armoured division in the tank corp”
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*[http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/80000823  Download a 1976 Interview with Nigel William Duncan] Reel 7 Aspects of period as officer with 8th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps in India, 1931-1932: posting to unit in Dehli, 1931; crowd control duties including electrification of armoured cars; crowd control duties at Chandi Chowk; question of suitability of armoured cars for policing role; health problems in India; character of Crossley Armoured Car. Imperial War Museum
*[http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/80000823  Download a 1976 Interview with Nigel William Duncan] Reel 7 Aspects of period as officer with 8th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps in India, 1931-1932: posting to unit in Dehli, 1931; crowd control duties including electrification of armoured cars; crowd control duties at Chandi Chowk; question of suitability of armoured cars for policing role; health problems in India; character of Crossley Armoured Car. Imperial War Museum
:Note: No. 2 Section 8th Armoured Car Company  may have operated independently, as it appears it was on the North West Frontier in 1931, not in Delhi.
:Note: No. 2 Section 8th Armoured Car Company  may have operated independently, as it appears it was on the North West Frontier in 1931, not in Delhi.
*[http://www.angelfire.com/pq2/armour/NWFP_30s Photographs North-West Frontier Province, 1930s] The photographer was probably a member of the 8th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps. From “Andrew M Brownhill"
*[http://www.angelfire.com/pq2/armour/NWFP_30s Photographs North-West Frontier Province, 1930s] and [http://www.angelfire.com/art3/narott/NWFP_30s_new/index.html some additional photographs]. The photographer was possibly a member of the 8th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps, but other Companies and Regiments are also mentioned. From "Andrew M Brownhill"
*C 1933 , the 8th Armoured Car Co. was at [[Delhi]] (for [[Peshawar]]). <ref name=RTC />
*C 1933 , the 8th Armoured Car Co. was at [[Delhi]] (for [[Peshawar]]). <ref name=RTC />
*The 8th Light Tank Co. took part in operations in Waziristan during 1937<ref name=Wazi/>
*The 8th Light Tank Co. took part in operations in Waziristan during 1937<ref name=Wazi/>
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*[http://www.warwheels.net/Jeffery1915ACNo1INDEX.html 1915 Jeffery-Quad Armored Car No. 1] (warwheels.net) advises a number were purchased by the British for use in India in 1916
*[http://www.warwheels.net/Jeffery1915ACNo1INDEX.html 1915 Jeffery-Quad Armored Car No. 1] (warwheels.net) advises a number were purchased by the British for use in India in 1916
*[http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/showthread.php?18655-jeffery-quad-armoured-car Jeffery quad armoured car] (irishmilitaryonline) indicates: twenty sent to India originated in an order originally made for Canadian troops in 1915. However only sixteen arriving in India after four had been lost along with most of the spare parts when the cargo ship SS Shirala was torpedo by a German U boat U-57 on the 2nd of July 1918. Fifteen of the Indian Jeffery’s can be accounted for, serving with the A.M.B (armoured motor batteries) 4th 5th 7th 8th & 10th three Jeffery’s in each A.M.B during the [[3rd Afghan War]]  February to August of 1919. Further cars from the Canadian order may have been sent to India  after use in Ireland in the early 1920s
*[http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/showthread.php?18655-jeffery-quad-armoured-car Jeffery quad armoured car] (irishmilitaryonline) indicates: twenty sent to India originated in an order originally made for Canadian troops in 1915. However only sixteen arriving in India after four had been lost along with most of the spare parts when the cargo ship SS Shirala was torpedo by a German U boat U-57 on the 2nd of July 1918. Fifteen of the Indian Jeffery’s can be accounted for, serving with the A.M.B (armoured motor batteries) 4th 5th 7th 8th & 10th three Jeffery’s in each A.M.B during the [[3rd Afghan War]]  February to August of 1919. Further cars from the Canadian order may have been sent to India  after use in Ireland in the early 1920s
*[http://armoredcars-ww-one.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/jeffery-rusell-armoured-car-india.html Jeffery-Russell Armoured Car. India, ca.1919]from Jose Luis Castillo‘s blog "Armoured Cars in the WWI"
*From Jose Luis Castillo‘s blog "Armoured Cars in the  WWI"
**[http://armoredcars-ww-one.blogspot.com.au/2011/12/jeffery-rusell-armoured-car-india.html Jeffery-Russell Armoured Car. India, ca.1919]
**[http://armoredcars-ww-one.blogspot.com.au/2011/11/jeffery-russell-armoured-cars-of-7th.html Jeffery-Russell Armoured Cars of the 7th Armoured Motor Battery (AMB). Waziristan, ca. 1920]
*[http://www.nam.ac.uk/microsites/war-horse/explore/legacy/mechanisation/attachment/110165/ Photograph: Jeffery Quad armoured cars on reconnaissance in Waziristan, 1920] National Army Museum
*[http://www.nam.ac.uk/microsites/war-horse/explore/legacy/mechanisation/attachment/110165/ Photograph: Jeffery Quad armoured cars on reconnaissance in Waziristan, 1920] National Army Museum


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====Photographs====
====Photographs====
*[http://www.angelfire.com/pq2/armour/NWFP_30s Photographs North-West Frontier Province, 1930s] The photographer was probably a member of the 8th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps. From “Andrew M Brownhill"
*[http://www.angelfire.com/pq2/armour/NWFP_30s Photographs North-West Frontier Province, 1930s] and [http://www.angelfire.com/art3/narott/NWFP_30s_new/index.html some additional photographs]. The photographer was possibly a member of the 8th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps, but other Companies and Regiments are also mentioned. From "Andrew M Brownhill"
*[http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=46719559@N04&q=Royal%20tank%20corps%20armoured%20cars%20in%20India%201920s  Photographs of Royal Tank Corps armoured cars in India 1920s], from ‘through their eyes' photostream flickr.com
*[http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=46719559@N04&q=Royal%20tank%20corps%20armoured%20cars%20in%20India%201920s  Photographs of Royal Tank Corps armoured cars in India 1920s], from ‘through their eyes' photostream flickr.com
*[http://www.flickr.com/photos/31596668@N05/6673674301 Photograph of  Crew 1, tagged India 1930s] flickr.com, [http://www.flickr.com/photos/31596668@N05/6673674743  Photograph of Crew 2, tagged India 1930s] flickr.com
*[http://www.flickr.com/photos/31596668@N05/6673674301 Photograph of  Crew 1, tagged India 1930s] flickr.com, [http://www.flickr.com/photos/31596668@N05/6673674743  Photograph of Crew 2, tagged India 1930s] flickr.com

Revision as of 09:26, 5 March 2013

Armoured Motor Batteries and Armoured Motor Brigades of the Machine Gun Corps, British Army

Armoured Car Companies and Light Tank Companies of the Royal Tanks Corps, British Army

In 1920, twelve Armoured Car Companies were set up as part of the Tank Corps, (later Royal Tank Corps), absorbing units from the Machine Gun Corps; eight were later converted into independent Light Tank Companies. All disbanded before the outbreak of the Second World War. [1]

By 1936 most armoured cars in service in India had been replaced by light tanks and the cars were distributed to volunteer forces in India and neighbouring countries.[2]

On 18 October 1923 the Tank Corps was officially given the title Royal making it the Royal Tank Corps (RTC). On 4 April 1939, the Royal Tank Corps was renamed the Royal Tank Regiment and became a wing of the newly-created Royal Armoured Corps.[3]


Armoured Motor Batteries and Armoured Motor Brigades MGC 1915-1921

"Armoured Motor Units began to form in Spring of 1915 utilising vehicles donated by rich Indians and Europeans. This was overseen by Colonel Lord Montagu (Inspector of Motor Vehicles, India and later Brigadier General, Advisor on Mechanical Transport Services, India). Only No 1 AMU had reliable vehicles - three Rolls Royces which, like the other cars were armour-plated by Indian Railway Workshops, and this unit acted as a Brigade HQ for Nos 1, 2 & 3 AMUs. Most of the other vehicles were unsuitable and it was not until 1918 that improved cars were made available.

The Units were re-designated Armoured Motor Batteries in 1917 and during this period, British and Indian crews were gradually replaced by MGC personnel. The British crews had originally been provided by Territorials from garrisons in India. By 1919, Nos 2 & 3 Armoured Motor Brigades were formed from Nos 4 - 12 AMBs, whilst Nos 13 - 16 AMBs remained un-brigaded. At the commencement of the 3rd Afghan War, No 1 Armoured Motor Brigade was reorganised into five Regular and three Auxiliary AMBs which served in the Khyber and Chitral areas. HQ No 10 Armoured Motor Brigade, formed in the UK, commanded Nos 5, 6, 7 & 16 AMBs and operated in Waziristan and Mahsud". [4]

The following War Diaries are available at the National Archives, Kew

7th Armoured Motor Battery, MGC A member of the 7th Armoured Motor Battery, MGC gained the Indian General Service Medal with clasp Waziristan 1919-21 Pte A N Showell MGC. charliesmedals.co.uk. He is also mentioned in this link from Artfact, quoting details from a Spink and Sons sale in 2007. "7 Armoured Motor Battery was formed Dera Ismail Khan in July 1915 with Indian crews and served in India with Derajat Brigade. Took part in operation on the North West Frontier with 10 Armoured Motor Brigade during the Third Afghan War. Their cars were transferred to 10 Armoured Car Company, Tank Corps in October 1921".

External links

  • Machine Gun Corps Wikipedia. The Motor Branch of the Machine Gun Corps formed several types of units: motor cycle batteries, light armoured motor batteries (LAMB) and light car patrols.
Note in India, the units were known as Armoured Motor Batteries (AMB)

Royal Tank Corps

Service in India

This link is from the medal dealer DNW and lists various medals for sale in 2004 awarded to members of the Tank Corps. Generally details of the Company are not given. Note these are the medals from one collection, so the list is not exhaustive

  • India General Service 1908-35 with clasps
    • Malabar 1921-22 this was awarded for the Moplah Uprising and the 8th Armoured Car Company was involved
    • Waziristan 1921-24
    • North West Frontier 1930-31
    • Mohmand 1933
    • North West Frontier 1935
  • India General Service 1936-39 with clasps
    • North West Frontier 1936-37
    • North West Frontier 1937-39

Royal Tank Corps School, Ahmednagar

1st Armoured Car Company

  • The 1st Armoured Car Co. equipped with Rolls Royce cars was sent to Iraq in March 1920 to help put down a rebellion [6]
  • This Great War Forum post indicates that 6 LAMB became part of the 1st Armoured Car Co. of the Tank Corps at the end of 1920. 6 LAMB had a Rolls-Royce armoured car called Cleopatra in 1920. Others were called Harvester, Avenger and Chatham. This comes from the unit war diary of the time, which is found under WO 95/5206 at Kew. 6 LAMB were under 17th Indian Division at the time and was based at Ramadi, Iraq.
  • 1985 interview with Sidney Albert Amatt Reels 13-14 Recollections of period with No 1 and No 2 Armoured Car Coys, TC in Iraq, 1922-1923. Imperial War Museum
  • The 1st Armoured Car Co. had arrived in India by 1925 [7]
  • Private Harold Bryant’s gravestone at Peshawar reads: "Private Harold Bryant. 1st Armoured Car Company. Royal Tank Corps. Killed 23rd April 1930. Aged 25 years. Erected by the officers, NCOs and men of the 1st Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps."[8] He was a despatch rider who was knocked from his machine during a riot situation in Peshawar, had a petrol soaked carpet thrown over him and was burnt alive.[9]
  • A member of the 1st Armoured Car Company gained the India General Service Medal with clasp North West Frontier 1930-31 Pte P J Goodard R Tank C charliesmedals.co.uk
  • C 1933, the 1st Armoured Car Co. was at Cawnpore and Calcutta. [10].
  • The 1st Light Tank Co took part in operations in Waziristan during 1937.[11]
  • Although redesignated "Light Tank Company", the 1st remained equipped with armoured cars. [12]
  • "Brought to notice for distinguished services rendered in connection with the operations in Waziristan, North West Frontier of India, 25th November, 1936, to 16th January, 1937":— le Maistre, Capt. R. G., 1st Light Tank Company, Royal Tank Corps. [13]
  • The 1st Light Tank Company took part in operations in Waziristan in 1938.[14]
  • Grave at Rawalpindi - "No. 7887086 L.E.W. Scammell. 1st Light Tank Company, Royal Tank Regiment. Died Rawalpindi 19 May 1939. Aged 23 yrs."[15]
  • Disbanded at Peshawar c September 1939, handing over armoured cars to Indian cavalry[12]

2nd Armoured Car Company

  • The 2nd Armoured Car Co. equipped with Rolls Royce cars was sent to Iraq in March 1920 to help put down a rebellion[6]
  • 1985 interview with Sidney Albert Amatt Reels 13-14 Recollections of period with No 1 and No 2 Armoured Car Coys, TC in Iraq, 1922-1923. Imperial War Museum
  • The 2nd Armoured Car Co. had arrived in India by 1925 [7]
  • C 1933, the 2nd Light Tank Co. was at Peshawar.[10]
  • Photograph 7th May 1934: An officer of the 2nd Light Tank Company on patrol near the Khyber Pass in Afridi tribal territory. In the background is the Safed Koh range of mountains with the entrance to the pass itself. Getty Images
  • No.7882203 Private William Chatterton, and No.7879367 Lance-Serjeant Harold Ernest Whittington, both of the 2nd Light Tank Company, Royal Tank Corps were awarded the Military Medal for bravery in the field during the Mohmand Operations, North West Frontier of India, 15th/16th August to 15th/16th October,1935 [16]
  • Page 6 of this link has a photograph captioned: Light Tank Mk IIB Indian Pattern of the 2nd Light Tank Company RTC, crossing the Nahakki Pass by mule track, Mohmand Operations, North West Frontier, September 1935 [17]
  • Grave at Quetta - "In memory of No. 7883491 Private W.B. Ingram. 2nd Light Tank Company, Royal Tank Corps, who died Quetta 20 Jan. 1937. Aged 22 yrs. Erected by his sorrowing father and comrades."[18]
  • Disbanded 1939, handing over tanks to Indian cavalry[12]
  • 2nd Armoured Car Company Royal Tank Corps Badge cultmancollectables.com

6th Armoured Car Company

  • A forum post stated "My grandfather served in the Tank Corps until his demob in 1922. He was last posted to 6 Armoured Car Company, Bareilly, India." In response "6th Armoured Car Coy was formed in Baghdad in 1921 from spare personnel of 1st & 2nd Armd Car Coys (themselves ex-4th Bn Tank Corps). They took over the Austin armoured cars and personnel of 7th Light Armoured Motor Battery, Machine Gun Corps until they got new Rolls-Royces. At the end of 1921 the 6th went to India to join the 7th-11th Coys", quoting Liddell-Hart's The Tanks Vol.1. [19] The Discharge reference letter, 2nd page with transcript, originally referred to, concering Pte Wilfred Silver was signed by G. Woods Lieut, from Tim Silver’s Ancestry website
  • "My father was a sergeant in the 6th Armoured Car Company...from 1924 to 1931, and I was born in Khanspur...”[20] This was a cantonment in the Murree Hills, where the wives and children spent time while the soldiers were based elsewhere.
  • C 1933, the 6th Armoured Car Co. was at Peshawar (for Razmak).[10]
  • Two sections of the 6th Armoured Car Company (Royal Tank Corps) took part in the Mohmand operations in 1933, one of very few British units present. India General Service Medal with clasp "Mohmand 1933" was awarded to 37841 Pte. M.J. Crawford , R. Tank C and 769291 Pte. A. Robertson, R. Tank C. Pte. Crawford subsequently joined the RAF and is believed to have continued his service with Armoured Cars.[21]
  • The 6th Light Tank Co. took part in operations in Waziristan during 1937[11]
  • Although redesignated "Light Tank Company", the 6th remained equipped with armoured cars.[12] However it appears the Company also had tanks, see later links.
  • "Brought to notice for distinguished services rendered in connection with the operations in Waziristan, North West Frontier of India, 25th November, 1936, to 16th January, 1937":—Heyland, Maj. H. M., D.S.O., 6th Light Tank Company, Royal Tank Corps. [13]
  • Awards to members of the 6th Light Tank Company for gallant and distinguished service in action in connection with the operations on the North-West Frontier of India, 1937: —
    • The Military Cross. Lieutenant Harry Osborn Stibbard.
    • The Military Medal for bravery in the Field. No. 7883052 Private Phillip Henry Carroll[22]
  • Details of the contents of a photograph album 6th Light Tank Company 1938-1939 including: March 1938, Vickers light tank, firing practice at Khanpur [possibly Khanspur?]. The tanks have numbers on each and you can clearly see numbers 3,4,5 and 6. Kingsway driving ground Delhi. October 1938 more Kingsway driving ground. Photos of the Indian Afghanistan border. Photos of Sanga-Sara [Sangasara] Camp [probably North Waziristan] 2 photos of military silver, armoured car and Vickers Mk IV Tank. Two bridges Sangra-Sara and Kysor River Bridge blown up by local tribesmen. [23]
  • The Mark VIB (Indian Pattern) tanks of 6th Light Tank Company RTC were photographed in India in early 1939, in front of the Red Fort in Delhi[24]
  • WW2Talk Forum thread indicates the 6th Light Tank Company was disbanded in 1939 and at least one member was posted back to the UK in April 1939 to “an armoured division in the tank corp”
  • Disbanded at Delhi in 1939, handing over armoured cars/[tanks] to Indian cavalry[12]

7th Armoured Car Company

  • This Great War Forum post indicates the Rolls-Royce Armoured Car "Silver Snipe" served during the 1920s in India as part of the 7th Armoured Car Co.
  • The 7th Armoured Car Co Tank Corps arrived in India in February 1921 with Rolls Royce Cars. They went to Peshawar and then to the Frontier. They formed protection picquets. In 1922 a section was sent to Malakand to assist the Chitral Relief Column and in May 1924 to Kohat for the Ellis murders. Pte P Donegan R Tank Corps was awarded the Indian General Service Medal with clasp Wazaristan 1921-24 charliesmedals.co.uk
  • 1976 interview with George Warren Richards Reel 3... Period as officer with 7th Armoured Car Coy, Tanks Corps in India, 1921-1924: posting to Peshawar; mechanical problems encountered; patrol duties. Imperial War Museum
  • 1985 interview with Sidney Albert Amatt Reel 12 ...Period with 7th Armoured Car Coy, TC based at Peshawar cantonment, ca 1923-1925: Reels 14-20 ...Recollections of period with 7th Armoured Car Coy, TC based at Peshawar cantonment, ca 1923-1925: Waziristan, periods at Peshawar and Lahore, 1923-1928. Discharged 1928 Imperial War Museum
  • Photograph:7th Armoured Car Co. in Peshawar, late 1920s/early 1930s[6]
  • 1976 Interview with William Brian Blain Reel 3 Recollections of operations as officer with 7th Armoured Car Coy in India, 1932-1935: posting to unit at Razmak; nature of escort duties; introduction of Light Tank Mark IIB at Quetta. Reel 4 Continues: opinion of Light Tank Mark IIB; duties as adjutant; mechanical problems with Wilson gear box; attending tactical gunnery course at Royal Tank Corps School, Ahmadnagar. Imperial War Museum
  • C 1933, the 7th Light Tank Co. was at Quetta.[10]
  • In 1935 the 7th Light Tank Co. in Quetta was called out to patrol the streets after an earthquake to prevent looting. They also used their vehicles to pull down the damaged buildings.[25]
  • The 7th Light Tank Co. took part in operations in Waziristan during 1937[11]
  • The 7th Light Tank Co. took part in operations in Waziristan in 1938.[14]
  • Disbanded at Peshawar c September 1939, handing over tanks to Indian cavalry[12]

8th Armoured Car Company

  • Captain George Archibald Rosser served in Malabar, in command of No 8 Armoured Car Co., later transferring to No 9 Armoured Car Unit, then serving in the Waziristan Campaign[26]
  • Page 108 The Mapilla Rebellion 1921-1922 Printed by the Superintendent Government Press Madras 1922 Archive.org, mentions the 8th Armoured Car Co. in the Moplah Uprising or Malabar Rebellion.
  • The 8th Armoured Car Co. was in Kirkee in 1926, with commanding officer Lieut Colonel Charles Arthur Bolton[27]
  • This link refers to photographs taken by Private H J Dibble No 2 section 8th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps taken in India from October 1925 to January 1930.
  • William (Bill) Marsden 1911-1969 entered military service on 12th Sept 1930, enlisting in the Royal Tank Corps as a regular soldier. He spent four years in India on the North-West Frontier, whilst attached to No 2 Section, 8th Armoured Car Company. [28]
  • Download a 1976 Interview with Nigel William Duncan Reel 7 Aspects of period as officer with 8th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps in India, 1931-1932: posting to unit in Dehli, 1931; crowd control duties including electrification of armoured cars; crowd control duties at Chandi Chowk; question of suitability of armoured cars for policing role; health problems in India; character of Crossley Armoured Car. Imperial War Museum
Note: No. 2 Section 8th Armoured Car Company may have operated independently, as it appears it was on the North West Frontier in 1931, not in Delhi.
  • Photographs North-West Frontier Province, 1930s and some additional photographs. The photographer was possibly a member of the 8th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps, but other Companies and Regiments are also mentioned. From "Andrew M Brownhill"
  • C 1933 , the 8th Armoured Car Co. was at Delhi (for Peshawar). [10]
  • The 8th Light Tank Co. took part in operations in Waziristan during 1937[11]
  • Awards to soldiers of the 8th Light Tank Company, Royal Tank Corps for "gallant and distinguished service in action in connection with the operations on the North West Frontier of India, 1937"
    • The Distinguished Conduct Medal. No. 1069998 Lance-Corporal Albert Williams.
    • The Military Medal. No. 7879515 Corporal Thomas Morton[29]
Newspaper item Cairns Post Friday 8 October 1937 trove.nla.gov.au
  • The Company does not appear on a listing for 1937 indicating it had been disbanded and/or absorbed after its action in Waziristan [7] However another reference advises disbanded March 1938, handing over tanks to Indian cavalry[12]

9th Armoured Car Company

  • The 9th Armoured Car Company arrived in India in April 1921, with the 10th ACC.
  • This link (scroll down) describes the Rolls Royce Indian Pattern armoured cars, dating from 1922, issued to the 9th Armoured Car Company, Royal Tank Corps [2]
  • In late 1931 "The 9th Armoured Car Company, commanded by Major Simpson, recently left Kirkee and proceeded to Belgaum, where it linked up with the 6th Armoured Car Company and engaged in technical training for a week...” (more details)[30]
  • C 1933, the 9th Armoured Car Co. was at Razmak (for Delhi).[10]
  • The 9th Light Tank Co. took part in operations in Waziristan during 1937[11]
  • This link, (dnw.co.uk) concerning the medals of Squadron Quartermaster Sergeant E. L. Parkin contains an image of a certificate for “Devotion to duty” awarded to L/Corpl E L Parkin 9th Light Tank Company during Waziristan Operations 1936-37 (Final Phase)
  • Disbanded at Lahore c September 1939 handing over tanks to Indian cavalry[12]

10th Armoured Car Company

  • The 10th ACC arrived in India with the 9th ACC in April 1921. They proceeded to Bareilly for training with Ford Box bodies. At the end of 1921 they went up to NW Frontier and there absorbed the 5th, 7th & 16th Armoured Motor Batteries now all called the 10th Armoured Motor Brigade they were armed with Jeffrey Quads.
They all operated on both the Takki Zam line and in the Tochi Valley and were active daily patrols. Two noteworthy events happened.
1) March 1922 at Idak a pigeon carried by the cars reported an ambush, flying five miles in five mins.
Later in year the Company was in action against a raiding party at Hinnis Tangai Ridge.
In July 1923 six cars moved 140 miles in 17 1/12 hours taking part in the surrounding of the Hisa Mahal Nabha State. The Maharaja received an ultimatum and soon afterwards was dethroned. Colonel K Wigram congratulated the cars on their performance.
Pte P C Chalmers R Tank Corps was awarded the Indian General Service Medal with clasp Wazaristan 1921-24 charliesmedals.co.uk
  • Grave at Quetta - "In memory of No. 7878958 Private P.C. Griffiths. 10th Armoured Car Company. Royal Tank Corps who died at Quetta 15 June 1930." [31]
  • 1976 Interview with Henry Maughan 'Bill' Liardet Reel 2: Recollections of period as officer with 10th Armoured Car Coy, Royal Tank Corps in India, 1930-1935: posting to unit, 1930; character of Guy Armoured Car; comparison between home and Indian service; operating with cavalry; opinion of Crossley Armoured Cars; posting to Razmak; duties protecting road builders; gunnery and maintenance courses at Ahmednagar; problems with supply of spares; character of Ahmednagar course. Reel 3 Continues: armoured car tactical training; Percy Hobart's visit to Razmak. Imperial War Museum
  • C 1933, the 10th Armoured Car Co. was at Kirkee.[10]
  • Obituary of Captain Frank Naughton, GC who as a private in the 10th Light Tank Company, based at Kirkee, saved a colleague from drowning August 5 1936 and was awarded the Empire Gallantry Medal. The Telegraph 22 Jun 2004 There is a photo of him in this link
  • The Company does not appear on a listing for 1937 indicating it had been disbanded and/or absorbed. [7]. However another reference advises disbanded March 1938, handing over tanks to Indian cavalry[12]

11th Armoured Car Company

  • 1985 interview with Sidney Albert Amatt Reel 10 ...posting to newly formed No 11 Armoured Car Coy; Reel 11... Recollections of initial acclimatisation period at Deolali Camp, ca 1/1922-2/1922: Reel 12 ...Period with 7th Armoured Car Coy, TC based at Peshawar cantonment, ca 1923-1925. Recollections of period at Cantspur, Rawalpindi, 1923. Imperial War Museum
  • C 1933, the 11th Armoured Car Co. was at Lahore.[10]
  • The 11th Light Tank Co. took part in operations in Waziristan during 1937[11]
  • Although redesignated "Light Tank Company", the 11th remained equipped with armoured cars [12]
  • "Brought to notice for distinguished services rendered in connection with the operations in Waziristan, North West Frontier of India, 25th November, 1936, to 16th January, 1937":—Pike, No. 7870476, C/Sjt. (C.Q.M.S.) A., 11 th Light Tank Company, Royal Tank Corps. [13] He is mentioned in this dnw.co.uk link. "Colour-Sergeant Pike served as C.Q.M.S. with the 11th Armoured Car (later Light Tank) Company between 1936 and 1938. The unit was stationed at Peshawar and took part in the operations along the North West Frontier against tribesmen led by the Fakir of Ipi. Pike later transferred to the 4th Royal Tank Regiment"
  • The 11th Light Tank Co. took part in operations in Waziristan in 1938.[14]
    • The Military Medal was awarded for distinguished services rendered in the field in connection with the operations in Waziristan, during the period 16th December, 1937, to 31st December, 1938 to No. 7877605 Sergeant William Vincent, Royal Tank Regiment. [32] He is also mentioned in this link dnw.co.uk
  • The 11th Light Tank Co. was part of the Razmak Brigade in Waziristan in 1939[33]
  • Disbanded at Mir Ali c September 1939, handing over tanks to Indian cavalry[12]

Regimental journal

The Tank Corps Journal, first publishe 1919-1920. The title changed in 1923 to The Royal Tank Corps Journal.

The Tank Museum Bovington (refer External links below) has advised they have a complete set of journals, (which are scanned, but unfortunately not available on their website) .[34] The National Army Museum, London, catalogue lists volumes from No 1 1919–1920 to No 15 1933-1934 (missing No 11-12) . Australian War Memorial Research Centre, Canberra ACT Australia has volume 8, no. 85 (May 1926)-v.18,209 (Sept. 1936) and Nos. 1-3, Jan. 1937-Jan. 1938

This link says several articles on the campaigns in Waziristan 1921-24 were published in the Tank Corps Journal in the early 1920s.[35]

This link refers to an article "Tanks in India" by General Sir John Crocker which appeared in the Royal Tank Corps Journal of July 1925.[36]

Jeffrey Armoured Cars

Rolls-Royce Armoured Cars

Crossley Armoured Cars

After the First World War, the British Army in India had a requirement for Armoured Cars for areas such as the North West frontier. A delegation was despatched to Britain to see what was on offer and particularly to look at the offerings from Rolls-Royce as their wartime models had performed well. As well as being expensive they surprisingly were unable to get over the gradient test on the cross country trial. There was also at the trials a 1 1/2 ton Crossley based on the chassis that had been intended for a Russian contract that came to nothing because of the Revolution. This was the chassis that was under consideration as a medium truck for India and eventually became the IGL1. It sailed through the trials. An order for 32 followed with bodies by Vickers and these were designated IGA1 by Crossley. These were delivered in 1923 and a further order followed. Total deliveries were about 450. All of these vehicles were fitted with solid tyres presumably to remove the risk of punctures but these were never very successful when used off road as their narrow profile inevitably led to the vehicle sinking up to its axles.[37]

Crossley armoured cars did not prove popular with their crews who found them underpowered and underbraked due to the weight of the armoured body. Brakes were fitted to the rear wheels only which made handling these cars on the mountainous roads of the North-West Frontier of India a tricky business.[38]

Light Tanks

External links

Photographs

References

  1. Royal Tank Regiment Association: Between the Wars
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 Armoured Car Section, BAF [Burma Auxiliary Force] from Steve Rothwell’s The Burma Campaign
  3. Royal Tank Regiment Wikipedia
  4. Link from Artfact, quoting details from a Spink and Sons sale in 2007, for medals of 7808665 Pte. A.N. Showell, M.G.C
  5. Scroll down Ahmednagar City ahmednagar.gov.in
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 The History of the 4th and 7th Royal Tank Regiments 1918-1939
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 The Royal Tank Regiment1916 – 1998 army.mod.uk
  8. Stephen Lewis' Soldiers Memorials , Graves in India, letter B
  9. Military History Forum thread
  10. 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4 10.5 10.6 10.7 10.8 Royal Tank Corps by Michael, asmrb.pbworks.com Date not stated, but probably with details c 1933
  11. 11.0 11.1 11.2 11.3 11.4 11.5 "Report on Operations in Waziristan 25th November 1936 to 15th December 1937" London Gazette Supplements "1st Phase", "Second Phase", "Final Phase"
  12. 12.00 12.01 12.02 12.03 12.04 12.05 12.06 12.07 12.08 12.09 12.10 1st-12th Armoured Car Companies, Royal Tank Corps 1920-1939 Regiments.org, an archived website.
  13. 13.0 13.1 13.2 London Gazette 18 February 1938 page 1073
  14. 14.0 14.1 14.2 "Report on Operations in Waziristan, 16th December, 1937 to the 31st December, 1938" London Gazette Supplement 18 August, 1939
  15. Stephen Lewis' Soldiers Memorials , Graves in India, letter S
  16. London Gazette 8 May 1936 page 2979
  17. Light Tanks Mark I-VI by Major General N W Duncan www.scribd.com
  18. Stephen Lewis' Soldiers Memorials, Graves in India, Letter I
  19. Army Rumour Service Forum
  20. daily-mail.vlex.co.uk
  21. dnw.co.uk and Item 597 bosleys.net
  22. The London Gazette, 18 June, 1937, page 3924
  23. worthpoint.com
  24. Thread:Vickers Light Tank MKVI B (India Pattern) color Discussion group:Allied
  25. Britain's Light Tank Mk II, Mk IIA, MK IIB wwiivehicles.com quoting The Encyclopedia of Tanks and Armored Fighting Vehicles - The Comprehensive Guide to Over 900 Armored Fighting Vehicles From 1915 to the Present Day, General Editor: Christopher F. Foss, 2002
  26. wartimememoriesproject.com
  27. Rootchat.com Armed Forces Forum
  28. ebay seller grahame555
  29. London Gazette 13 August 1937, page 5177
  30. The Straits Times, 11 December 1931, Page 6
  31. Stephen Lewis' Soldiers Memorials , Graves in India, letter G
  32. London Gazette Supplement 17 October 1939, page 7019
  33. Waziristan Campaign Order of Battle 1939 from A Story of War
  34. Email to User:Maureene dated 1 March 2012 .
  35. Great War Forum thread Tank Corps in India/Waziristan 1921
  36. 36.0 36.1 Page 124 Corps Commanders: Five British and Canadian Generals at War, 1939-45 by Douglas E. Delaney Preview Google Books
  37. Crossley Military Vehicles after WW1 crossley-motors.org.uk
  38. Thread from WW2Talk "Armoured Cars, Tanks, Other Vehicles... & Pith Helmets" with images